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The hell kinda sense does that make? If the man was gonna go through all the same stuff the woman goes through during a pregnancy, then I could understand this but as it is it just seems like outright sexism.


Assuming the woman needed a man's permission to get an abortion.

How would this be "sexism"?


Yeah, that is what I'm assuming seeing as that's the title of your thread .-.

As for how that's sexism, well I think you can figure that out fpr yourself.
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Women can't be trusted. Especially during their stages of early pregnancy. This is completely fair and the man usually makes more right and just decisions anyway in normal relationships.
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octorockandroll wrote:


Magical-Soul wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

The hell kinda sense does that make? If the man was gonna go through all the same stuff the woman goes through during a pregnancy, then I could understand this but as it is it just seems like outright sexism.


Assuming the woman needed a man's permission to get an abortion.

How would this be "sexism"?


Yeah, that is what I'm assuming seeing as that's the title of your thread .-.

As for how that's sexism, well I think you can figure that out fpr yourself.


You're not gonna explain to us how this is sexist?
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octorockandroll wrote:


Magical-Soul wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

The hell kinda sense does that make? If the man was gonna go through all the same stuff the woman goes through during a pregnancy, then I could understand this but as it is it just seems like outright sexism.


Assuming the woman needed a man's permission to get an abortion.

How would this be "sexism"?


Yeah, that is what I'm assuming seeing as that's the title of your thread .-.

As for how that's sexism, well I think you can figure that out fpr yourself.


MagicalSoul admitted that she created this thread to troll (and then told me not to talk to her xD). Probably best to ignore her.
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Magical-Soul wrote:

You're not gonna explain to us how this is sexist?


If someone told you that men needed approval from women to get, for example, vasectomies would you really think the explanation for why that's sexist would be necessary? It kind of goes without saying.


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MagicalSoul admitted that she created this thread to troll (and then told me not to talk to her xD). Probably best to ignore her.


Ah. Good call.

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People should read the whole article before forming an opinion on the subject. However, I also assign blame to the misleading title of the article and the fact that the OP did not change the thread title to reflect the actual issues that come with this bill.
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If someone told you that men needed approval from women to get, for example, vasectomies would you really think the explanation for why that's sexist would be necessary? It kind of goes without saying.


So you think a vasectomy is equal to a pregnancy? Wouldn't the equivalent to vasectomy be tubal ligation?

Whenever a woman gets pregnant, doesn't the man lose financial autonomy? Isn't it objectively more logically to have split responsibility between both parents as opposed to overwhelming giving responsibility to the man and choice for the woman?
Posted 7/13/17 , edited 7/13/17

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You all are so afraid of Muslims bringing in sharia law that you been blind to fact that the Talinbangelicals have been pushing their own forum of it for years


I was a member of a conservative Catholic group that hated Muslims but wanted women to wear veils to Church.
These fundamentalist Christians think that they have the duty to tell people how to live their lives. They can't sleep comfortable at night knowing that two men or women are in a loving relationship. It makes their blood boil.
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Women can't be trusted. Especially during their stages of early pregnancy. This is completely fair and the man usually makes more right and just decisions anyway in normal relationships.


Not sure whether to or assume that you just forgot your sarcasm tag.


Magical-Soul wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/in-arkansas-women-now-need-permission-from-men-to-get-abortions_us_59637d02e4b02e9bdb0e17bb

Do you think this law is good and fair? Well, despite being objectively fair and logical on paper, people(mostly women) have had a largely negative response to it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/6mtfq9/state_requires_mens_permission_for_abortion_news/

Even comments that are sound logically and have no holes in their arguments gets bombed with dislikes and/or deleted(again, likely from women).

Strange that no one got around to posting this topic, it's about two days old. But what do you guys think?

Is this law somehow anti woman or do you think it is fine? Perhaps you would achieve equality through a different route?


As others have pointed out, the article is focused on some ramifications of the bill, and is using an overly simplified headline to emphasize those ramifications beyond what the bill literally states. Therefore I've modified the thread title slightly in a way that I hope will encourage others to read past the headline before reacting.

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If someone told you that men needed approval from women to get, for example, vasectomies would you really think the explanation for why that's sexist would be necessary? It kind of goes without saying.



Fun Fact: Many doctors will not perform a Vasectomy or Tubal Ligation on an Unmarried person under the Age of 28 with no kids. And if they are married making sure it is a joint decision. No need to be hypothetical about it.
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octorockandroll wrote:

If someone told you that men needed approval from women to get, for example, vasectomies would you really think the explanation for why that's sexist would be necessary? It kind of goes without saying.



Fun Fact: Many doctors will not perform a Vasectomy or Tubal Ligation on an Unmarried person under the Age of 28 with no kids. And if they are married making sure it is a joint decision. No need to be hypothetical about it.


Okay.

That's fucking dumb.
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Fun Fact: Many doctors will not perform a Vasectomy or Tubal Ligation on an Unmarried person under the Age of 28 with no kids. And if they are married making sure it is a joint decision. No need to be hypothetical about it.


That, however, is not mandated by law and is up to individual doctors.



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Okay.

That's fucking dumb.


Fun Fact: Planned Parenthood offers vasectomies.




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octorockandroll wrote:

The hell kinda sense does that make? If the man was gonna go through all the same stuff the woman goes through during a pregnancy, then I could understand this but as it is it just seems like outright sexism.


It's the disposal of the remains, not rather or not the woman can get an abortion. HuffPo's bias is showing here.
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octorockandroll wrote:

The hell kinda sense does that make? If the man was gonna go through all the same stuff the woman goes through during a pregnancy, then I could understand this but as it is it just seems like outright sexism.


It's the disposal of the remains, not rather or not the woman can get an abortion. HuffPo's bias is showing here.


Yeah, I realize the difference now. I got duped by the misleading headline, both of the thread and the article.
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octorockandroll wrote:


Tyrconnell wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

The hell kinda sense does that make? If the man was gonna go through all the same stuff the woman goes through during a pregnancy, then I could understand this but as it is it just seems like outright sexism.


It's the disposal of the remains, not rather or not the woman can get an abortion. HuffPo's bias is showing here.


Yeah, I realize the difference now. I got duped by the misleading headline, both of the thread and the article.


These days it seems we live in the era of clickbait and sh1tposting.
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