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Posted 7/17/17 , edited 7/18/17

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lol,"shot her the door of the police car"this guy's a maniac.This guy's so crazy he couldn't roll down the window or open the door to shoot,he had to shoot though the door.


If he just shot her through the door that would actually sound *better*. As it sounds like he just leaned over his partner who was in the driver seat and shot her while his partner was talking to her at the window. Without any warning even to his partner.



So basically,he's more trigger happy than I thought.
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Posted 7/17/17 , edited 7/17/17

dulun18 wrote:

if only " criminals should not fire unless fired upon"

in a profession where you can get shot while eating lunch, filling up gas, pulling people over, etc.. You are a target when you put on that uniform., so i'll keep to a case by case basis.

there will be trash in any profession since they are humans after all, but just because of a few bad officers I should label all officers as bad ?

so if you look at the FBI most wanted list? what do you think ? All humans are scumbags just from looking at the list ?

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives




Yes , humans are trash, id rather be a cat
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redokami wrote:
Yes , humans are trash, id rather be a cat




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runec wrote:


redokami wrote:
Yes , humans are trash, id rather be a cat






High fives you-
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I disagree. Police officers should be able to defend themselves when they are threatened rather than waiting to get shot and possibly killed. I really dislike when people take a headline about an instance in which a cop appears to be in the wrong and use it as justification to label all cops as unprofessional and "trigger happy." Police officers aren't fodder either, you know. They're human beings.
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I disagree. Police officers should be able to defend themselves when they are threatened rather than waiting to get shot and possibly killed. I really dislike when people take a headline about an instance in which a cop appears to be in the wrong and use it as justification to label all cops as unprofessional and "trigger happy." Police officers aren't fodder either, you know. They're human beings.


To use another incident as an example: how is shooting someone in the back that's trying to run a danger to the officer again? Did the suspect lay a silent but deadly?
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Just another in a long line of senseless killings. Police officers know what they are signing up for when they take the job. The general public never expect to get gunned down by those who are sworn to protect and serve.

I feel police officers and the frightened, trigger happy lot among them must not discharge their weapons until fired upon. And since cops have proven to be as dishonest and the average person caught doing something wrong cameras should be rolling at all times. They have the right to take lives so they should be held at the highest of standards.

No preemptive strikes, no "but they had a knife or they were reaching ". Police officers that treat life like fodder should be prevented from using lethal force at every turn with safeguards to protect the public.


You realize that police officers do not only shoot criminals to protect themselves, right? If one of your loved ones is killed by a criminal that a police officer could have stopped by shooting, and his response is that he couldn't shoot because he hadn't be fired upon, would you respond favorably to that?
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MysticGon wrote:

Just another in a long line of senseless killings. Police officers know what they are signing up for when they take the job. The general public never expect to get gunned down by those who are sworn to protect and serve.

I feel police officers and the frightened, trigger happy lot among them must not discharge their weapons until fired upon. And since cops have proven to be as dishonest and the average person caught doing something wrong cameras should be rolling at all times. They have the right to take lives so they should be held at the highest of standards.

No preemptive strikes, no "but they had a knife or they were reaching ". Police officers that treat life like fodder should be prevented from using lethal force at every turn with safeguards to protect the public.


You realize that police officers do not only shoot criminals to protect themselves, right? If one of your loved ones is killed by a criminal that a police officer could have stopped by shooting, and his response is that he couldn't shoot because he hadn't be fired upon, would you respond favorably to that?


You know they wouldn't respond favorably no instead they'll go on the forums and say all cops are trash and corrupted.

Not to discharge until fired upon so you rather the cops all die and then fire their weapons.
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Better to be judged by 12 jurors than to be carried by 6 pall-bearers. All government is coercive, police are those who society assign to wield that power to force compliance.
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Shipwright wrote:

I disagree. Police officers should be able to defend themselves when they are threatened rather than waiting to get shot and possibly killed. I really dislike when people take a headline about an instance in which a cop appears to be in the wrong and use it as justification to label all cops as unprofessional and "trigger happy." Police officers aren't fodder either, you know. They're human beings.


To use another incident as an example: how is shooting someone in the back that's trying to run a danger to the officer again? Did the suspect lay a silent but deadly?


Why you running? We could argue this all day and say Person A was armed, dangerous and had 330 deaths under his belt, or Person B was the second coming of Jesus, either way why you running from police? What are they willing to do to get away? How many people will they hurt to get away?

It's all fun and games till your loved one gets hurt cause police chasing someone "let them get away" cause y'know its bad to shoot fleeing suspects who more than likely are not in the right state of mind.

Likewise in some of those "incidents" the person prior attacked the officer then fled, that presents they are violent and willing to do whatever to get away. If they are willing to attack police, they are willing to attack other -unarmed- people. You do not want to let someone like that get away.
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Posted 7/17/17 , edited 7/18/17
Once again this tragedy proves this whole "fraternal brotherhood of police" protection is crap. This is the what...3rd or 4th bad shooting I have heard about where the police officer is obviously in the wrong but the law will side with him. A police officer should feel free to use their weapon when and however they deem necessary to defend themselves. HOWEVER when a police officer makes a "bad shoot" like this I feel its self destructive to protect them

. As far as police getting trigger happy.. You cant really be all that surprised in the last few years can you? I mean in 2009 16 police officers were outright killed in Washington State alone(4 of them at once while drinking coffee in the morning). That's just 1 year and one state. Tension against the police(justified or not) most likely has many of them many of them jumpy. Add to this groups like Antifa or Black lives matter making the police out to be the worst people alive and you agitate the situation.

We can hold police to whatever pedestal standards you like. However their training isn't really all that rigorous. i would encourage anyone to look at the academy training and you'll see its quite basic. That's not saying I am justifying cases like this. I am just saying police being a bit quick to pull the trigger, or in this case flat out make a bad decision isnt all that surprising. What we need to focus on is tearing down the polices "inner circle" mentality. Correct decisions that were poor and, prosecute those who it would seem just shoot for no reason.

Well that's my take on it anyways....take it with grain of sand.
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Posted 7/17/17 , edited 7/18/17

ishe5555 wrote:


You realize that police officers do not only shoot criminals to protect themselves, right? If one of your loved ones is killed by a criminal that a police officer could have stopped by shooting, and his response is that he couldn't shoot because he hadn't be fired upon, would you respond favorably to that?


Not sure where your from but in the US you do realize the police legally have no obligation to shoot someone about to commit a crime right? Technically their job is to enforce laws. until the person kills your loved one they are not legally obligated to do anything. Now thats not what usually happens but if they did nothing until after the fact the law would still side with the officer.
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This police fiasco goes beyond targeting my fellow African Americans at this point. Some police officers will simply off anybody now. I'm not sure what this poor woman did to be shot, after all she did only call the police. I guess 911 is the Free Murder Hotline nowadays.

Now, not all cops are bad. Not even most of them are, but there are too many jumpy and untrained dolts running around with a badge and a gun.
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MysticGon wrote:

https://www.rt.com/usa/396510-woman-killed-police-shooting/

Just another in a long line of senseless killings. Police officers know what they are signing up for when they take the job. The general public never expect to get gunned down by those who are sworn to protect and serve.

I feel police officers and the frightened, trigger happy lot among them must not discharge their weapons until fired upon. And since cops have proven to be as dishonest and the average person caught doing something wrong cameras should be rolling at all times. They have the right to take lives so they should be held at the highest of standards.

No preemptive strikes, no "but they had a knife or they were reaching ". Police officers that treat life like fodder should be prevented from using lethal force at every turn with safeguards to protect the public.


Are you a police officer? If not, then I respectfully submit that you are ignorant of certain important aspects, responsibilities, and liabilities of the job. To wit, you are not in a position to issue a blanket statement about the profession. Do you disagree with this individual officer's actions? Obviously. But to extrapolate suppositions about all police officers from that is just plain wrong. I'm proud of the job I do and the profession in which I serve. And I do NOT think that I must allow someone to shoot me first before I can [re]act. If I allow myself to be hurt, then whom can I protect?

Very rarely have I bothered to call a Forums comment "offensive" to me. I shall make exception for this one.
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