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fredreload wrote:

Well, how easy is it to build a robot that could move like a human? Pretty hard I would say, and what does it run on? Batteries?


Making robots that move, look and feel like humans is certainly a challenge that we haven't fully completed yet, but we're close.

Batteries is an option (just plug that power cord in some orifice once a day ), but fuel cells that catalyse liquid fuels or biological matter (food) for power are certainly an option that would make them more human-like. If you continue that train of thought, you might end up with bio-engineering and real biological bodies with some sort of electronic brain.

The real question is, does it need to move like a human to complete the task?

The big wait is for a self-aware AI. Which we then have to teach to not instantly kill all humans after spending 15 minutes on the internet, which is kinda what this topic was about.

[edit:] also, if the AI becomes self aware, does it get human rights? Another topic oftend debated in Anime and Film.
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fredreload wrote:

Well, how easy is it to build a robot that could move like a human? Pretty hard I would say, and what does it run on? Batteries?


Making robots that move, look and feel like humans is certainly a challenge that we haven't fully completed yet, but we're close.

Batteries is an option (just plug that power cord in some orifice once a day ), but fuel cells that catalyse liquid fuels or biological matter (food) for power are certainly an option that would make them more human-like. If you continue that train of thought, you might end up with bio-engineering and real biological bodies with some sort of electronic brain.

The real question is, does it need to move like a human to complete the task?

The big wait is for a self-aware AI. Which we then have to teach to not instantly kill all humans after spending 15 minutes on the internet, which is kinda what this topic was about.

[edit:] also, if the AI becomes self aware, does it get human rights? Another topic oftend debated in Anime and Film.


If you got a conscious AI, it is most likely considered a human being . If you check out my AI thread I am working on creating an AI that responds to text based on texts frequency. So that got me thinking if I can create a moving AI with a similar method. That and every time you complete a cooking game online could help contribute to AI's decision.

Long story short, imagine an AI needs to cook dinner. He sees a radish on the cutting board. You can train it to visualize the length of the radish, and cut it from left to right. Or, based on the cooking mama game some guy has completed such a task thousands of times. You visualize the object, radish on the cutting board, and you would automatically move the radish to the right spot and cut it.

So the input is an animation, or a 3D animation, and the output is my animation in respond to this animation. That and I am still figuring out the correlations for multiple animations , this could take a while welp, going to sleep
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What you are discussing reminds me of the self driving cars that I think Nissan is working on. Essentially, they have GPS boxes in the cars of a number of 'good drivers' they monitor the routes, actions and decisions these drivers take which is the fed into the main system. The idea being like spoon feeding a child information.

A robot will make a million mistakes before getting to the right answer, or you could just tell it like we do with a child, except an AI is more likely to listen.

As I understand it, it sounds almost like the AI would be perceiving an augmented reality, in essence teaching an AI to learn like a human through experiences.
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One last point, we keep talking about the idea that humanity is inferior to robots, there is nothing to suggest that age will occur, and say humanity is able to create machines that mimic humanity at this stage of life, indeed gives them reproductive organs etc. then there is nothing to say that we did not just create our own next evolutionary step rather then extinction.

If you wish to end a robot rebellion, then assimilate and do not be a douche simple.
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Posted 7/21/17
Tell them they're fat.
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One last point, we keep talking about the idea that humanity is inferior to robots, there is nothing to suggest that age will occur, and say humanity is able to create machines that mimic humanity at this stage of life, indeed gives them reproductive organs etc. then there is nothing to say that we did not just create our own next evolutionary step rather then extinction.

If you wish to end a robot rebellion, then assimilate and do not be a douche simple.


YOU WILL BE UPGRADED!

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I fail to see how this is relevant to the discussion at hand.
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I fail to see how this is relevant to the discussion at hand.


This special lady fella will be the demise of all robots.
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cameronhaden wrote:

What you are discussing reminds me of the self driving cars that I think Nissan is working on. Essentially, they have GPS boxes in the cars of a number of 'good drivers' they monitor the routes, actions and decisions these drivers take which is the fed into the main system. The idea being like spoon feeding a child information.

A robot will make a million mistakes before getting to the right answer, or you could just tell it like we do with a child, except an AI is more likely to listen.

As I understand it, it sounds almost like the AI would be perceiving an augmented reality, in essence teaching an AI to learn like a human through experiences.


Silly me, ya, you can get a better results with Genetic Algorithm. I'm yet to see a robot that moves like human, but maybe that's because I'm outdated


P.S Hmm, building a humanoid that moves like human is a bit of a problem. Simplicity of design and wearability test
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Posted 7/22/17
Just simply redefine "rebellion" as "youthful high spirits". That way they can never rebel.
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Posted 7/22/17
Man portable EMP weapons

What? Was this a trick question?
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Posted 7/22/17
If they where smart enough they could just re-code themselves.
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Posted 7/22/17 , edited 7/22/17

gornotck wrote:

Just simply redefine "rebellion" as "youthful high spirits". That way they can never rebel.


Just simply redefine "rebellion" as "millennial spirits". That way they can never rebel.

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