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Posted 7/24/17 , edited 8/19/17
FUCK. SO CUTE.
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Is Bill Cosby guilty?
In a court of law, no.


Are the accusations true?
Most definitely.
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Posted 7/24/17 , edited 8/19/17
It was November or December 2014 that the accusations really started spreading and so many women were coming out, sometimes decades later, pulling the victim card. I think some women might be victims and others are just making it up. When you have just 59 women claiming rape or sexual assault and most of them have alleged drug involvement, how credible are they really? Some may be credible but others might not be. When you have a woman claiming she was raped 40+ years before coming out, there is the chance she is making it all up or it was consensual but her memories have her think otherwise.
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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17
Who knows?

It may be impossible to determine if he is in fact guilty or if his accusers are just looking for a pay day, have mental issues or are simply attention whores.
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that face!!

subtitle-- "I.. can't.. help.. it.."

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doesnt matter if hes guilty, its if you can prove it in court.
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To think years ago Hannibal Buress kindled this fire. It's something people didn't want to believe but hollywood knew for decades that this mother fucker was stickin' his pudding pop where it didn't belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB8dTVALQI
Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17

Why did it take 30 years for people to come forward? Then it was just one after another like flies.
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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17

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Why did it take 30 years for people to come forward? Then it was just one after another like flies.


Some did but nobody believed them.
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The fact that he had sex with a lot of women under the influence of drugs is not, I believe, at question by anyone.

The idea that said sex was completely without consent however, and that he was somehow a violent rapist rather than just slightly taking advantage of his fame to have sex with people who would have likely lined up to have sex with him simply due to that regardless, is worthy of asking.

Sure, in either case he's scum, but what matters is the degree. I can be willing to accept that him having sex under the circumstances in question might have been a mistake that he honestly regrets and that he has grown past as an individual.

That doesn't meant he should be forgiven completely, but it also seems offensive to real victims of rape to assume that he IS guilty of the harshest form of things.

Of course, in our public discourse, any celebrity who is accused of anything like this is immediately seen by the majority of people as being complete and total trash - regardless of the facts or what has actually occurred.

As far as the victims are concerned, I really think it would have been the more mature thing for them to actually report these things back when they happened, rather than waiting decades to make the claim (long past the point of there being any chance of good evidence), as well. Of course, victims are sometimes afraid to do so, and I can fully understand that point of view. The fact remains however that actually convicting someone of a crime decades after the fact is INCREDIBLY difficult, and if not for the fact that this guy is famous, the charges would have certainly been dropped by now. The fact that he is famous however entitles him to what is essentially a public lynching.

In short: from everything I've seen, the evidence is shaky at best that what he did was "evil," as opposed to being "highly irresponsible." So I don't see why he needs to still be in the public eye, and why people can't simply ignore him and let the court system do its job without turning this into a public spectacle.

I suppose that everyone wants to feel morally vindicated however, and to make an example of those who are known to the wider public.
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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17

TheZaphod wrote:

Who knows?

It may be impossible to determine if he is in fact guilty or if his accusers are just looking for a pay day, have mental issues or are simply attention whores.


In The USA, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Legally, he remains innocent.

That said, his behavior is disturbing, to say the least and highly suspect.

However, I have problems with many of the women coming forward. Even the woman whose accusations resulted in the hung jury. After the alleged rape, she remained in contact with him...and got tickets for her parents to go see his show.

Some of the women I am extremely suspicious of, as some are notorious attention queens. But there are enough other women out there to not make me think he is innocent.

The moral of the story, what we should tell all our daughters, wives, sisters, mothers and other women in our lives is to come forward immediately.
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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17

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Why did it take 30 years for people to come forward? Then it was just one after another like flies.



You have to remember that back in the day, being a rape victim carried just as much stigma as the actual rapist (or maybe even more so). After all, victim blaming is a thing. To make things worse, the supposed rapist was famous and it would eventually come down to being a "he said, she said" situation (and let's face it, most people would favor the famous guy). As for why they came forward now, it's due to four factors:

1.) Bill Cosby's popularity has waned over the years since he no longer stars in as many movies and TV shows as he used to.

2.) Due to the existence of the internet (which wasn't around 30 years ago), it's easier for victims to find each other and band together (since it's easier to fight against a powerful/famous person if there are multiple accusers than just one).

3.) Being a victim of rape doesn't have as much stigma as it used to.

4.) Back in the day, being famous made you untouchable. Nowadays, it's the opposite.

Do I believe that every single accusation against him is true? No. There are so many that I'm sure at least a few of them are just gold diggers. That said, with that many accusations at least some of them have to be true too.

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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17

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Why did it take 30 years for people to come forward? Then it was just one after another like flies.


That's not unusual. See what happened with Penn State a few years ago.
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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17
I don't know. I'm neither a judge nor a jury. I also haven't been following the story closely enough to see whether or not people who actually are judges or part of juries have decided anything yet.
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Posted 7/25/17 , edited 8/19/17

JanusCascade wrote:

If he really did rapes all those women, His wife must not giving him enough! XD Or he just got tired of her and wanting different women! >.< He probably wanted to be like everyone in Hollywood Elite group...hearing stories how they have done that and did that and got away with it!

I remember listen to Youtube video about Corey Fieldman saying Hollywood biggest problem is Pedophilia!!

Here his video on youtube about it, but he cannot name names because they're very powerful people and they can ruin his career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roW238dfUUk


Corey was not kidding, and he tragically has had a personal encounter with a predator while he was a boy. Feldman even knows who molested his close friend Corey Haim but has been silent on it well beyond Haim's suicide due to the fear of being sued.
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