Post Reply I need to understand something again about the series Index
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It's about Kamijou's power. I find it weird that he is a Level 0 but has a power that could easily be a Level 5 or even Level 6. At least this is how I see it. I'm watching it again and it's bothering me a little that he has such a unique ability but it kinda goes unnoticed. It's just strange to me. I'm wondering if his powers get explained in the anime a little more. I watched the series years ago but I forgot some things. Like it negates any esper and magical power like it's nothing and power like that could so be a Level 6. I know Level 6 isn't something that is reachable even by a Level 5 esper but if could I think Kamijou would be one. If not a Level 6 then a powerful Level 5 in my opinion. I'm watching it again to get a better understanding. But I might have to do some reading as well. I'm thinking that the reading is something I might just have to do more of though.

What do you think? Forgive me if this seems silly.
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Imagine breaker is not technically an esper power because of that the people that test esper power will fail to detect/classified its power.


http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Kamijou_Touma/Abilities_and_Powers
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DarkSasword wrote:

Imagine breaker is not a esper power because of that the people that test esper power will fail to detect/classified its power.


Interesting. So, it is its own category altogether.

And here I thought he was a special kind of esper or something due to his power. Kamijou is something else and that is average.

Thanks for clearing things up for me.

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IIRC, he's referred to as an esper at one point, but meant in the sense of "he can't use magic."

Of course, it's obviously an exceptional ability that should've been immediately appreciated. (Railgun is better, anyways.)
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The first part is that his power cannot be measured, to all the instruments and tests it does not exist.
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As to why nobody cares, as far as the anime goes isn't that because nobody knows? Just a few people have witnessed it and they're not the type to drag him off to an examination lab. To everyone else it's an urban legend at most.

This ties into a Japanese work ethic concept--if you're a specialist you should be honed in on the latest in your field, not wasting time on rumors that'd compromise the credibility of yourself and your department or institution. You run into this immediately with sangaku; Japan has an awesome math history from its isolationist period that's almost entirely lost, and continues to be lost because people in math fields would risk their careers getting seriously involved with it.

Last I heard the only specialist was an old high school teacher named Fukagawa Hidetoshi who does everything on his own time/dime, if anyone from a college or university wanted to get involved they'd effectively be asking to be fired.

So I expect that outlook is saving him from being found out and turned into a vivisected science experiment.
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MadeDragon wrote:

IIRC, he's referred to as an esper at one point, but meant in the sense of "he can't use magic."

Of course, it's obviously an exceptional ability that should've been immediately appreciated. (Railgun is better, anyways.)


Yeah, I found Railgun more enjoyable too.
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MadeDragon wrote:
Railgun is better, anyways.


I liked Index but I agree Railgun is more enjoyable. I think the author was able to take lessons he'd learned from Index to make Railgun a better story.
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I think, he does?, that Kamijou's power might be considered more a divine ability than ESP or spells. Kinda odd since the Churches seem to be the heavy spell users in that universe, but it does have the built in disadvantage of removing Kamijou's luck in the process. I love Railgun and like Index, but the cross over cameos, etc are fun in each.
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Posted 7/24/17
I assumed Imagine Breaker was like Esper antimatter, so when it makes contact with an ability they annihilate.
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It could be as simple as most scales measure from 0 upward. Maybe his power rates in the negative direction.

basically
Instead of level 5 he's level -5.
but the instruments only rate stuff 0 and up
so he comes in at 0
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