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If it's a good review for fans, then what about it being a good show for others. When I originally watch Persona The Golden Anime back in the day, I thought, "Wow, this doesn't make any sense and is not engrossing in the slightest". So I never got to playing the game because of how oddly adapted that show was. I hope this show does a better job at introducing others to the franchise.


Well, the Golden anime was kind of an odd case. It was adapting Persona 4 Golden, which was an expanded version of the original Persona 4. However, the original already had its own anime adaptation, so the Golden anime only adapted the Golden exclusive story lines, which is probably why it seemed so confusing. So basically, you would've been expected at least to have seen the original anime before watching Golden, although the "proper" way to watch it would've been to splice the two together (this makes Golden similar to the second season of Haruhi Suzumiya).
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MyLifeToons wrote:
If it's a good review for fans, then what about it being a good show for others. When I originally watch Persona The Golden Anime back in the day, I thought, "Wow, this doesn't make any sense and is not engrossing in the slightest". So I never got to playing the game because of how oddly adapted that show was. I hope this show does a better job at introducing others to the franchise.


Well, the Golden anime was kind of an odd case. It was adapting Persona 4 Golden, which was an expanded version of the original Persona 4. However, the original already had its own anime adaptation, so the Golden anime only adapted the Golden exclusive story lines, which is probably why it seemed so confusing. So basically, you would've been expected at least to have seen the original anime before watching Golden, although the "proper" way to watch it would've been to splice the two together (this makes Golden similar to the second season of Haruhi Suzumiya).


Exactly: Golden was the second-season spin of P4: the Anime, which first season went through the whole entire canon of the game plot from start to finish, almost word-for-word in some scenes of the dialogue.
So, what could P4GA do for an encore? Basically, Tenchi-style ensemble filler-comedy episodes for the characters, some "missing" side-stories (like some of the deaths told from the killers' point of view), and the whole thing with Marie, whose character wasn't added until the P4:Golden reboot of the game.
Start from the beginning, it makes sense--Although P4A: S1 is better watched as a "Walkthrough" while you're already playing the game.

(Most of the fan confusion is due to the fact that P4GA is on Crunchyroll, and the original first-season P4A isn't...What, didn't know there were two shows?
Although you can still find P4A on HuluPlus, and wherever Sentai still streams its shows.)


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Since the last Anticipation was for the Day Breakers special this one can focus on the tv series. I haven't played the game yet so have to get to it before it airs next year.


Get ready to invest at least A LOT of time playing this game. I'd be shocked if this game isn't at least GOTY contender.


It's been out only a few months and already THE officially fan-appointed Game You Must Buy Immediately After Getting Your Console...Which, like Kingdom Hearts 3, it pretty much was months before it was released.
Wouldn't say it's bigger than P4, except geographically, with more room to run around in, and just as compelling.

(Just that it's a little too gratuitously dour and negative at the beginning, before the concept is established and the characters get to like each other.
Oh, and the "Phantom Thieves" concept is almost ridiculously Snidely Whiplash in its portrayal of "Bad adults, good rebellious teens", and doesn't have the tighter realism of solving a murder in a sleepy hick town where everyone knows each other.)


Really hope CR gets this, at the very least get licensed by Aniplex, like they did with P4 the Golden Animation, and let CR stream it. Amazon still being on prowl just makes me feel uncomfortable about getting hyped on any high profile shows.


This is WAY out of Amazon's league. Yes, we're all hiding under our beds about "What if mean ol' Amazon buys all our favorite shows and shakes us down for them?", but that would be under the scenario that Amazon even remotely knows which shows to buy, and doesn't just grab the cheap licenses to say "Hey, fellow millennials, it's streaming anime!"
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MyLifeToons wrote:
If it's a good review for fans, then what about it being a good show for others. When I originally watch Persona The Golden Anime back in the day, I thought, "Wow, this doesn't make any sense and is not engrossing in the slightest". So I never got to playing the game because of how oddly adapted that show was. I hope this show does a better job at introducing others to the franchise.


Well, the Golden anime was kind of an odd case. It was adapting Persona 4 Golden, which was an expanded version of the original Persona 4. However, the original already had its own anime adaptation, so the Golden anime only adapted the Golden exclusive story lines, which is probably why it seemed so confusing. So basically, you would've been expected at least to have seen the original anime before watching Golden, although the "proper" way to watch it would've been to splice the two together (this makes Golden similar to the second season of Haruhi Suzumiya).


Yeah that would make sense. The problem is this isn't Haruhi Suzumiya. This is an adaptation of the game. SO it really shouldn't act as a weird second season. An adaptation should NEVER assume the audience has seen previous works. It really should stand on its own.

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Lord_Wunder wrote:


MyLifeToons wrote:
If it's a good review for fans, then what about it being a good show for others. When I originally watch Persona The Golden Anime back in the day, I thought, "Wow, this doesn't make any sense and is not engrossing in the slightest". So I never got to playing the game because of how oddly adapted that show was. I hope this show does a better job at introducing others to the franchise.


Well, the Golden anime was kind of an odd case. It was adapting Persona 4 Golden, which was an expanded version of the original Persona 4. However, the original already had its own anime adaptation, so the Golden anime only adapted the Golden exclusive story lines, which is probably why it seemed so confusing. So basically, you would've been expected at least to have seen the original anime before watching Golden, although the "proper" way to watch it would've been to splice the two together (this makes Golden similar to the second season of Haruhi Suzumiya).


Exactly: Golden was the second-season spin of P4: the Anime, which first season went through the whole entire canon of the game plot from start to finish, almost word-for-word in some scenes of the dialogue.
So, what could P4GA do for an encore? Basically, Tenchi-style ensemble filler-comedy episodes for the characters, some "missing" side-stories (like some of the deaths told from the killers' point of view), and the whole thing with Marie, whose character wasn't added until the P4:Golden reboot of the game.
Start from the beginning, it makes sense--Although P4A: S1 is better watched as a "Walkthrough" while you're already playing the game.

(Most of the fan confusion is due to the fact that P4GA is on Crunchyroll, and the original first-season P4A isn't...What, didn't know there were two shows?
Although you can still find P4A on HuluPlus, and wherever Sentai still streams its shows.)


Watching a show like a walkthrough doesn't make any sense. It's a show. The original Persona 4 anime ISN'T the first season. It's a previous adaptation. An adapation should never assume a person has seen the previous adaptation nor that they've seen the work it's based on.I'll reiterate, an adaptation should always stand of on it's own.
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Watching a show like a walkthrough doesn't make any sense. It's a show. The original Persona 4 anime ISN'T the first season. It's a previous adaptation. An adapation should never assume a person has seen the previous adaptation nor that they've seen the work it's based on.I'll reiterate, an adaptation should always stand of on it's own.


While I understand what you're saying in regards to the nature of an adaptation, there is something I don't understand: Why can't both Persona 4 anime be considered a single series? Why must the two be viewed as separate entities?
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Ejanss wrote:
Start from the beginning, it makes sense--Although P4A: S1 is better watched as a "Walkthrough" while you're already playing the game.


Watching a show like a walkthrough doesn't make any sense. It's a show. The original Persona 4 anime ISN'T the first season. It's a previous adaptation. An adapation should never assume a person has seen the previous adaptation nor that they've seen the work it's based on.I'll reiterate, an adaptation should always stand of on it's own.


Made sense to me--I would play the game, get stuck, and then catch up with the episode for plot-progression hints: "Oh, that's right, after asking everybody on the street, I have to go over to Junes to find Naoto..."
It was easier than looking it up on GameFaqs, and more entertaining.

(And wait, you HAVE seen it and were confused by P4GA, or....what, I'm not following your righteous nitpick?)
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Looks like i definitely need to continue playing the game lmao
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I love/hate this game.

Don't know how I feel about an anime. Just lay off all the annoying texting scenes.
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long time Persona game franchise fan but never watched the anime. Persona 5 is is amazing but I am curious how are they going to squeeze in all the time spent leveling up the confidant social links, that's like half the fun of the game.
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Lord_Wunder wrote:


MyLifeToons wrote:

Watching a show like a walkthrough doesn't make any sense. It's a show. The original Persona 4 anime ISN'T the first season. It's a previous adaptation. An adapation should never assume a person has seen the previous adaptation nor that they've seen the work it's based on.I'll reiterate, an adaptation should always stand of on it's own.


While I understand what you're saying in regards to the nature of an adaptation, there is something I don't understand: Why can't both Persona 4 anime be considered a single series? Why must the two be viewed as separate entities?



Because both series are obviously adapting different games. P4 and P4G have slightly different storylines. Let me give you some perspective. Fullmetal alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood are both adaptations of the same manga. The aren't considered part of the same narrative because they are fundamentally different stories. P4 and P4G while they are based on the same game, they have different stories. P4 and P4G both have the same start, so they can't have the same continuity. While they are adaptations of the same game, they aren't necessarily part of the same cannon, and so they shouldn't rely on each other .
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MyLifeToons wrote:


Ejanss wrote:
Start from the beginning, it makes sense--Although P4A: S1 is better watched as a "Walkthrough" while you're already playing the game.


Watching a show like a walkthrough doesn't make any sense. It's a show. The original Persona 4 anime ISN'T the first season. It's a previous adaptation. An adapation should never assume a person has seen the previous adaptation nor that they've seen the work it's based on.I'll reiterate, an adaptation should always stand of on it's own.


Made sense to me--I would play the game, get stuck, and then catch up with the episode for plot-progression hints: "Oh, that's right, after asking everybody on the street, I have to go over to Junes to find Naoto..."
It was easier than looking it up on GameFaqs, and more entertaining.

(And wait, you HAVE seen it and were confused by P4GA, or....what, I'm not following your righteous nitpick?)

Not exactly a fan of your haughty attitude, but excuse me if I confused you. I've tried watching both the original adaptation of P4 and the P4G anime. I think I watched up to episode 3 of each. But I didn't really feel enthralled by how hollow and generic the characters were. It put me off of playing P4 for a while, until a friend of mine gave me their P4G game. Originally hesitant, I gave the game a chance. And I fell in love with the game. I loved the style, the gameplay,and surprisingly the characters too. They were much more nuanced then I thought they were. Keep in mind, I only played P4G until the second dungeon, but that's because I wanted to finish Persona 3 first (a game a love, but I'm not a fan of the adaptations). I figured that the characters feel like so hollow because the adaptations didn't explore them. Even in the first hour of the game, they explored the characters more thoroughly than the shows have in those 3 episodes.
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So I just finished playing Persona 5, and I can't help but wonder what the anime will do with the
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I just hope Kawakami gets a lot of screen time. Easily the best girl!
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So I just finished playing Persona 5, and I can't help but wonder what the anime will do with the


Part of me wants to see that, another part of me wants them to make one of the girls a canon love interest, and this at best is a dream sequence. Eh time will tell.
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