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All Earth flags should stay off Mars.
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Posted 7/30/17 , edited 7/30/17
Only this flag should be allowed.

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Well, I mean, all the world super powers banned having weapons in space in some treaty if I'm recalling correctly did they not? Why can't they do the same of keeping countries from claiming colonies? No territory would be owned by any country, yes, I get they would be dependant on Earth, but the Martians should have control of their own colony once properly established and yes I know it won't be for awhile, but I didn't exactly say when.
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All banners aside from the Human Empire's is heretical! All non-humans shall be subjugated and enslaved! All humans who do not follow our glorious God-Emperor shall be destroyed!
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DaColdHeartedSniper wrote:

Well, I mean, all the world super powers banned having weapons in space in some treaty if I'm recalling correctly did they not? Why can't they do the same of keeping countries from claiming colonies? No territory would be owned by any country, yes, I get they would be dependant on Earth, but the Martians should have control of their own colony once properly established and yes I know it won't be for awhile, but I didn't exactly say when.


Banning weapons in space was very specific to the cold war; the two sides agreed that the effect of having nuclear missiles stationed in orbit instead of in bunkers in their respective territories would be bad for the very unsteady peace they'd built around mutually asured destruction - a first strike from 100km above your head is harder to respond to in time than one from the other side of the planet. "don't do this because it will drastically increase the chance life on Earth goes extinct within the next few years" is a much better incentive than "don't do this because, uh, imperialism and nationalism are the same thing and also bad?"

Also, there won't be any "Martians". A lot of Americans at the time of the revolutionary war thought of themselves as Englishmen who disagreed with the English government, an "American" identity took some time after that to develop - and those colonies had already been existing for almost 200 years! You'll be lucky if the grandchildren of the first colonists identify as "Martian" and not their nation of origin. And that's comparing a society that took months to send messages back-and-forth to the homeland to one where it takes minutes.


RyukoKuroki wrote:

All banners aside from the Human Empire's is heretical! All non-humans shall be subjugated and enslaved! All humans who do not follow our glorious God-Emperor shall be destroyed!


Citizen, while your faith is admirable, I believe you meant to say, "the Imperium of Man".

The Emperor protects.
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Haha, fool.

There is no other leader for humanity except for our God-Emperor! This, "Imperium of Man" is nothing but a rebel faction, a weak peoples nation. The Human Empire shall crush all in our path! We shall purge the stars for the God-Emperor!

All hail the Human Empire!

All hail the Human Empire!

All hail the Human Empire!
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Maybe we should just have a new flag to represent the entire planet earth?
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Maybe we should just have a new flag to represent the entire planet earth?






Yes! The Banner of the Human Empire!
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You seem pretty childish and clueless. They have always tried to have one ruler here on Earth and that's why there's wars. So who's gonna be the one ruler on Mars? Let's wage war and find that out. Get it?
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Right, I'm sure the nations of the world will pour money and resources into space exploration without any promise of possible gain in the form of resources and territory on possible new frontiers.

I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense. We can't get along on the surface of the Earth and you think we are going to incorporate Mars as the common territory of humanity? HA!

The people talking about the Earth Empire literally make a better point just by making their references. The only way mars isn't going to be parceled up once we have a means and use for doing so is if a unified earth empire is what rules our world when the time to colonize and make use of mars comes.
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Sorry to say but what your asking for is not only completely impossible but also a terrible idea all around (no offense meant to the OP). I'll be covering the reasons for both of those statements

Why its impossible (though I'm sure you already know this)
1) No country in their right mind would just give up an entire planets worth of resources and space
2) The country would at best be a proxy for a different earth government as any colony would have crippling debt otherwise (having to pay for all of their food goods ect from a DIFFERENT PLANET) They would have no choice but to obey the supplier of their goods

Why its a terrible idea/questions your not asking yourself
1) Where do the people come from? Are they all from one country or are there any restrictions of who can go to space?
2) If no and they are from all over whats to prevent an issue similar to what happened to the middle east after WW2? If you take that many cultures and toss them together there is going to be a huge clash over religion ect.
3) If yes and there are restrictions then who gets to decide that (there is a good chance a war could be fought over the rights to send people to other planets) You also have to ask yourself if the people really don't want to be a part of their country anymore.
4.) what do you do about government? No one country has the same government and rights/who gets to decide that?
5.) You will be guaranteeing the first interplanetary war. Either Earth will change their mind and want what Mars has or vice versa

As a little side not for something you said earlier the UN does have rules in regards to space and colonization. To put it basically countries cannot claim any soil outside of Earths orbit (just because there is a US flag on the moon does not mean we own the moon). Though as a way to get around this you have companies like SpaceX doing it while the US helps fund them (so basically colonies will end up as proxies or owned by corporations like SpaceX.
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Except Roboute Guilliman is the current leader of the Imperium of man
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Silence you insolent fools! Bow down to our God-Emperor! Our legions shall carry the banner of Humanity to the four corners of the Earth, and eventually the universe!

All Hail the Human Empire!
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Only this flag should be allowed.



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YouGottobeFockingKidding wrote:

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^even better
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


YouGottobeFockingKidding wrote:

Only this flag should be allowed.




^even better


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