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Post Reply All Earth flags should stay off Mars.
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LOL

Okay............ let me ask OP this question.


Exactly WHO or WHAT is going to enforce that "ban"?
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I support #CommieMars.

In all seriousness though, global unity would be nice, but there's a lot of conflict within single countries as it is. A united Mars might survive, but it would be horribly dysfunctional. There'd still be the liberal/conservative fights and the social/libertarian fights and racism and xenophobia and and all that stuff even if we were all under one flag. That said, it still might be better than having a bunch of countries that all have nationalism to fight over in addition to everything else.

But will it happen? No. Mars will probably end up being partially controlled by private organizations such as SpaceX and partially controlled by the United States and United Nations, and then other countries like Russia and China will worm their way in.
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regardless, the colonization of mars would require a independent government as it would be almost impossible to enforce anything from earth due to the lag for transmissions and the inability to travel quickly enough.
And will most likely be only by scientist until we can develop a better way to travel space that is both quicker and cheaper in which hopefully, will be a joint collaboration of nations and will be free of most issues (ex. ownership of land). Most likely though, it probability will be a democratic communism (i know that it sounds like a oxymoron but it could work free of political influence).
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A particular country's flag on Mars means nothing. Look at earth, there were people living places first yet that didn't guarantee that a region would be named after them nor did it stop others from invading. Even the invaders planting a flag didn't guarantee that they would keep that country. If the flag holder can't sustain survival where they put the flag nor fend of invaders then it's just another child's game of king of the castle .
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Forget Mars. There's nothing there but iron sand and rocks. I say we should go to the outer solar system moons like Callisto, Ganymede, Europa, and Titan.
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If anything it's going to be some corporation or company that settles mars.
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At present I highly doubt any country would fund colonization on another planet, so the idea of a political govt. is a bit of a stretch. I find it far more likely that any space colonies will be run by corporations who funded the project.

Say Amazon fronts the billions of dollars to move people and gear to mars. Lets also say nobody else even bothers for another 100 years to let Amazon take the risks and see what they find. Amazon would be the de facto govt of mars. Does that make sense? Similar to how corporate offices in other countries cannot be touched by the regulations of countries they began/reside in. Think of it kind of like Mobile Suit Gundam type govts. Where corporations fund the projects so corporations get to make the rules. No govt can complain when they cannot send any form of Arbiter or Police into space without cooperation of said corporation.


Except presently all corporations that do go into space do within air space and locations owned and operated by some Government, Space X included as an example. So again, sure they can try do whatever but at the end of it, U.N. or the country that boasts the highest space forces will be in charge of that rock.

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I really don't think it's something we have to worry about. I seriously doubt it's actually possibly to colonize mars. It makes good sci-fi, but it's just not logical. During the day, it can reach 68 degrees, and at night (because of the lack of atmosphere) it drops to -243 degrees---during the summer. Plus, it takes 39 days for a tiny probe to get there--who knows how long for a bigger vessel. People haven't even returned to the moon--but they think they can develop a rocket massive enough and with enough resources to not only travel to mars, but colonize it? The fuel alone for a vessel that big would be unspeakable. Even more, it would be a one way death trip since there would be no way for them to get back--as a question of fuel and how to launch said-rocket would ultimately come up.

Not to mention, mars isn't exactly overrun with resources to support such a thing. If it was a big, tropical planet with stable temperatures, plants, and running water--well, that would be different. I fear if we ever did get close to such a venture, the colonists would die within the year from disease or lack of resources. Right now, Mars is just a space rock with some ice, meteor holes, and dirt. So, even if people put flags on it, it really wouldn't mean anything. Owning a whole lot of nothing is still nothing. I might be wrong, but there seems to be more important things going on than to spend big budgets on space voyages.

Then again...


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