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Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/6/17

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all I can see is more $$$

I first saw it at the Animation magazine article
http://www.animationmagazine.net/features/sony-tv-to-acquire-majority-stake-in-funimation/

...more $$$


How is *more money going into anime* a bad thing *for anime*?

Everyone, I don't know if you've noticed, but anime is getting a lot bigger. More people are aware of it. Anime is on the verge of something big, and it's not a bad thing, and it's not something to be afraid of. It's a good thing. It means more opportunities for everyone and everything involved in anime.

I just wish people would stop being all....ignorant internet conspiracy theorist about everything. ... but, it's the internet, so...

edit:

Here.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2017-08-02/.119577

Read.
Someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

ANN can be horribly annoying sometimes (particularly with reviews) but Answerman is always worth reading.


Is it me, or the Answerman article seems to imply that RIP Crunchyroll-FUNi partnership? (This means RIP Crunchyroll)

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Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/6/17
Justin has been wrong before. If Funi and CR did get a divorce it would be a huge blow to us. CR wouldn't go under, but it may have to downsize. VRV is dead without Funimation, though. Huge waste of money.
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Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/2/17
Justin was just outlining the worst case scenario here, but I think that Funi did their due diligence to make sure they can operate in the same way as much as possible before agreeing to this. Of course, this is a matter of how much influence Sony will have because if they have too much, then things will fall by the wayside. We shall see about that.
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Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/6/17

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Justin has been wrong before. If Funi and CR did get a divorce it would be a huge blow to us. CR wouldn't go under, but it may have to downsize. VRV is dead without Funimation, though. Huge waste of money.


CR to its immense credit has always stayed trim yet always expanding. Downsizing extremely unlikely - they've great contacts, insane worldwide accessibility and if anything it was Funimation which appeared to falter streaming wise (something CR excels at and never truly tried to be anything else). Who the hell will shift the CR licensed Blu-ray's though? This is... Messy, for now nothing changes but damned is it gonna be complicated to track. Meanwhile we will hopefully get another few juicy bites out of the Funimation catalogue here.
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the idea of all these big companies trying to get in on anime does have me worried, I mean do they know what shojo, henen, yaoi or yuri are (just to name examples off the top of my head), if they don't know these or any other anime concepts then how am I supposed to know if they can cater to anime.
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bakura wrote:

the idea of all these big companies trying to get in on anime does have me worried, I mean do they know what shojo, henen, yaoi or yuri are (just to name examples off the top of my head), if they don't know these or any other anime concepts then how am I supposed to know if they can cater to anime.


They're funding those that do, not a lot of this is western produced anime - they just want the rights and are happy to invest heavily for those rights.
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Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/6/17

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Just read this: "Q: Does this change your Crunchyroll/VRV partnership?
A: There are no changes to our existing partnership or to the content available from Funimation on either service. Crunchyroll will continue to broadcast subtitled simulcasts, and FunimationNow will continue to stream SimulDubs for most titles within two weeks after the shows original Japanese broadcast. "

I would expect the CR/Funimation partnership is based on more than a handshake agreement. Contracts exist to prevent sudden unpredictable changes in the business environment. Contracts normally have a specific term, however, and after that term expires, things can change.

Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/3/17
Let the further centralization commence.
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Posted 8/2/17 , edited 8/3/17

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InuWhisk wrote:

Just read this: "Q: Does this change your Crunchyroll/VRV partnership?
A: There are no changes to our existing partnership or to the content available from Funimation on either service. Crunchyroll will continue to broadcast subtitled simulcasts, and FunimationNow will continue to stream SimulDubs for most titles within two weeks after the shows original Japanese broadcast. "

I would expect the CR/Funimation partnership is based on more than a handshake agreement. Contracts exist to prevent sudden unpredictable changes in the business environment. Contracts normally have a specific term, however, and after that term expires, things can change.



This is possible.
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Posted 8/3/17 , edited 8/3/17
Funimation / CR partnership

I think this may be on the way out with the Funimation / Sony Deal and I am not the only one / I would rather have it stay but now it's Sony vs. Universal

Did Funimation choose Sony because CR Did A deal with Universal earlier in the month?

On September 8, 2016, Crunchyroll announced a partnership with Funimation.[26] Crunchyroll will stream selected Funimation titles, while Funimation will stream selected Crunchyroll titles, as well as their upcoming dubbed content

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunchyroll#Growth_and_Funimation_partnership.

Crunchyroll Partners With NBCUniversal Entertainment Japan to Co-Develop Anime

In addition, Funimation and Universal Pictures Home Entertainment will act as distributors for Crunchyroll's home video catalog.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-12/crunchyroll-partners-with-nbcuniversal-entertainment-japan-to-co-develop-anime/.118652

Sony Pictures TV to Acquire Majority Stake in Funimation

I feel like this and other recent anime events is akin to " The Day Music Died " when On February 3, 1959, rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J. P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson were killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, together with pilot Roger Peterson. The event later became known as "The Day the Music Died", after singer-songwriter Don McLean so referred to it in his 1971 song "American Pie".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Music_Died

Funimation is stiil here along with CR and the newcomers but the way anime fans are being treated is almost sacrilegious

I had a lot of fun watching anime / it felt like a close friend now it seems anime is on the moon fan wise Cold distant incaring about the fans which seem to dont mattter anymore.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-31/sony-pictures-tv-to-acquire-majority-stake-in-funimation/.119575

ANN JUSTIN thoughts and thinks CR / FUNI wiil be phased out


What Should We Expect from the Sony Pictures TV - Funimation Deal? by Justin Sevakis, Aug 2nd 2017 ANN NEWS



" I would be very surprised if Funimation's marriage with Crunchyroll lasts very much longer after this. Big studios are big on exclusivity, and would want to leverage Funimation's library with its existing Crackle service and other partners. I do expect that Funimation will continue to do deals with Netflix and Hulu, since Sony works with them both. But Crunchyroll? I suspect that they'd be thought of as competition, especially with ownership stakes from Chernin Group and AT&T. Any cooperation with players that big would be a result of dealmaking at a far higher level (though both SPT and AT&T share ownership of Game Show Network). Moreover, Funimation gave up a lot of control over content when they made the deal with Crunchyroll, and I would think its new owners would want that control back. Mind you, shows that are already split between the two companies are likely done so by contract, so any split wouldn't affect any already-announced shows, just new ones going forward. "



http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2017-08-02/.119577
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Posted 8/3/17 , edited 8/4/17
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/03/sony-funimation-best-friends/

What I read from the article is that it's definitely good for Sony (and Funimation), and perhaps not that great for Crunchyroll.

If you read the article, Sony definitely needs Funimation. But not necessarily CR


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Justin was just outlining the worst case scenario here, but I think that Funi did their due diligence to make sure they can operate in the same way as much as possible before agreeing to this. Of course, this is a matter of how much influence Sony will have because if they have too much, then things will fall by the wayside. We shall see about that.


It's not about being able to operate the same way. It's about survival.

See the article I pointed to above.


With the bigger streamers flexing their muscles and snatching up shows at outrageous prices, niche anime providers like Crunchyroll and Daisuki have struggled to stay afloat. Crunchyroll's parent company recently expanded into other genres with its new service VRV while Daisuki will shut down completely in October. Right now Crunchyroll relies on partnerships like the one it struck for Funimation's catalog, but the deal with Sony could disrupt their mutually beneficial dynamic.



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Sony Pictures Television probably wouldn't be buying Funimation if they didn't like how things were running as it is. This is likely a situation where, as long as Funimation continues to do what they're doing, the things that made SPT happy enough to buy them, then they'll probably be left alone. It'll be like Sega buying Atlus. Everyone thought, "Oh Atlus is doomed. They'll be making Sonic RPG's until Sega closes them down." The reality was that Sega was happy with Atlus and their games, and let them keep doing things as they normally did. So unless Funimation royally fucks up, I'm sure SPT will leave them alone. We'll probably see some Funi dubs on Crackle for free, to give people a taste, and hell, this may open up some doors for for TV deals beyond Toonami. This isn't Aniplex buying Funimation to monopolize and kill the US anime market, this is the people that produce Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune throwing money at some weebs to keep doing what they do best.


That comparison isn't really valid...

Sega happy with Atlus and their games sure, but what partnerships were Atlus in?

Sure... Sony happy with Funimation and its catalog, but its partnership? Are you absolutely sure?

Companies don't purchase other companies for their partnerships. Those are transitory. Companies can get partnerships without purchases.

I'll come right out and say it... Anyone who thinks this piece of new is great for CR is fooling themselves.
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I know I'm in for a good time when an article has a factual inaccuracy in the opening paragraph.

It was popular enough for Funimation, which specializes in translating anime for American audiences, to launch its own service in 2016.


FunimationNow is a RELAUNCH they already had their own streaming platform years before that.


niche anime providers like Crunchyroll and Daisuki have struggled to stay afloat. Crunchyroll's parent company recently expanded into other genres with its new service VRV while Daisuki will shut down completely in October. Right now Crunchyroll relies on partnerships like the one it struck for Funimation's catalog, but the deal with Sony could disrupt their mutually beneficial dynamic.


VRV launching means Crunchyroll is struggling? I don't know the inner workings but companies try to expand all the time. Was Amazon struggling when they launched a video streaming service? Google when they started making phones and computers? Valve when they made a game distribution service?

Would a company struggling to stay afloat make their own Expo? Starting helping fund anime? Start fulling producing anime? (Children of Ether) Giving away trips to Japan, expensive entertainment packs, who knows how many pizzas back when they hit 1 million paying subs?

I stopped reading here. The writer honestly seems like they have no idea what they're talking about.
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I'm seriously worried about what is this going to mean for us the South American audience, I hope that unless Sony plans to bring Funimation current and future portfolio here then they just leave us alone with Crunchyroll... I don't ever want to go back to pages with thousands pop ups and downloads full of malware, nowadays if CR didn't acquired it I don't even bother watching it.
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Posted 8/5/17 , edited 8/6/17
This is good for Crunchyroll as well as Funimation & Sony. Sony being a parent company of Funimation now gives them lot more strength at the bargaining table when going after series in the next season. The deal between Crunchyroll and Funimation is only beneficial to Sony not detrimental; they have no reason to want to end it prematurely; if anything it is a bonus. Crunchyroll really just does subbing while Funimation just does dubbing. Funimation is only on the hook for part of the deals they make not the whole thing, and get access to all of the content that Crunchyroll wins bids on from Japan and vice versa.

Unless you guys think that Sony is going to create a new company that is going to do what Crunchyroll does now; I don't see the deal being changed anytime soon.
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Posted 8/13/17 , edited 8/13/17

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There's always a slim chance that Funi will go global....


I do hope so. If there's one thing I hate about the Funi/CR partnership is that a lot of Funi animes available in CR aren't available outside of the US. It's also disappointing that CR produces anime dubs only in English.


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I'm seriously worried about what is this going to mean for us the South American audience, I hope that unless Sony plans to bring Funimation current and future portfolio here then they just leave us alone with Crunchyroll... I don't ever want to go back to pages with thousands pop ups and downloads full of malware, nowadays if CR didn't acquired it I don't even bother watching it.


As I said up there, I hope Sony will expand Funi to regions outside of the US. And I feel you about using illegal sites. I just wish I could pay for a premium account, but my mother say she'll pay it for me if I can get into college again (I had to leave because we moved to another city, and I couldn't just get a transference), into the college she chose to be exact.
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