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NETFLIX ANIMES / This as Bad As Amazon Strike



Netflix is producing. Amazon Strike is licensing. Netflix is actually partnering with anime studios to make new shows.

Pretty big difference.

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Yea I am a serious anime Fan TBH I started in the 1960's with Astro Boy > I dont mind comments abiut why I think it's bad It was more about all of the anime upheaval .I probally left some thoiughts which are now being added. But come on a little respect . Name calling I didnt do anything to you I have always been polite to you in the forums WTH





TBH I was tired and did a quick post I was talking the whole anime industry / it does appear power plays are going but anyway there ois lot of cool PV's below enjoy

I didnt mean to single out Netflix but pricing / even time to watch is out of control that being said Polygon Pivtures wrote a nice article about Netflix doing original anime / working directly withe the studios

They did put put Ronja / Knights of Sidonia / Ajin.

But a valid complaint is that wait a seson and the dark side has it already Take Fate/Apocrypha in NOV / even worse Kakegurui not until 2018.

UPDATED LIST BELOW / and some good PV's

It would be better / not great if anime was one or 2 services but if you wanted to watch all it gets pricey

Even if was just VRV / Amazon Strike it be 25 month

VRV / Hidive is not bad / it would be similiar to older CR / Funimation plans 17 month

And wuth Netflix which had its moments raising prices too / If you have 4 screens it's 14.99 a month And thats the catch HD costs more

VRV 9.99
Hdive 3.99 Intro / 6.99
Netflix SD 7.99 / HD 9.99 2 screens
Amazon Strike 15.98 / Strike 4.99 Prme 10.99 momthly plan

I rounded to the nearest dollar

43 a month

473 a year


Here’s a look at all the anime series hitting Netflix next year
Netflix is doubling down on tons of new anime series
by Thomas Biery Aug 2, 2017, 6:20pm EDT
POLYGON

At an event in Tokyo called Anime Slate 2017, Netflix unveiled over a dozen new anime series and films that will hit the streaming service within the next few years. The titles range from reboots and adaptations to totally original series, and boast talent from both Japan and the West.



Polygon Pictures/Toho

A.I.C.O. Incarnation Spring 2018

Bones, the studio that produced the shows My Hero Academia, Eureka 7, and Soul Eater, is bringing this original sci-fi series to Netflix. Set in a future Tokyo, it follows a girl named Aiko who lost her family in an incident called “the Burst.” Two years after the catastrophe, Aiko discovers that the Primary Point, The Burst’s place of origin, holds the key to a secret that rests in her own body. The show will premiere on Netflix in spring 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCfYQnOLHV0

Cannon Busters

This original anime, written by a team that includes Bee and Puppycat creator Natasha Allegri and The Witcher’s Anne Toole, stars S.A.M., a robot designed for friendship. S.A.M. joins up with two other robots in search of his best friend, who also happens to be the heir to an imperiled kingdom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=7CVxE-fXCFA

Devilman Crybaby Spring 2018

Masaaki Yuasa, director of Ping Pong: The Animation, will lead production on this new adaptation of legendary manga artist Go Nagai’s Devilman saga. The series follows Akira Fudo, a young man who takes on the abilities of a demon in order to prevent similar demons from dominating the world. Devilman Crybaby will debut in 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww06yGPM7Kc

Fate/Apocrypha Nov 2018

Masaaki Yuasa, director of Ping Pong: The Animation, will lead production on this new adaptation of legendary manga artist Go Nagai’s Devilman saga. The series follows Akira Fudo, a young man who takes on the abilities of a demon in order to prevent similar demons from dominating the world. Devilman Crybaby will debut in 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2r3sF9vAGs

Godzilla: Monster Planet

Toho Studios, the creators behind the original Godzilla films, are bringing a new anime trilogy to Netflix, beginning with Godzilla: Monster Planet. The film takes place in 2048, years after Earth has been taken over by kaiju. After discovering that a planet they planned to colonize is uninhabitable, a group of humans decide to take back their homeworld from the monsters’ clutches. Godzilla: Monster Planet will come to Netflix this November.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2r3sF9vAGs

Kakegurui

In the world of Kakegurui, gambling is everything. So much so that an academy has been established made specifically to study the art form. The series follows a group of characters who attend this academy, and put their money on the line in the name of becoming filthy rich. The series began airing in July in Japan, and is scheduled to hit Netflix in 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTlHQiRNVl0

A few other series are on their way to Netflix as well, including:

B: The Beginning, which involves an investigation of a serial killer running loose in a futuristic archipelago.

Baki, a series following one young man’s quest to surpass his father as the best fighter in the world.

Children of the Whales, a story of about 500 people who live on a ship sailing through a planet covered in sand.

Knights of the Zodiac: Saint Seiya, a remake of the classic ‘80s series involving warriors clad in magical armor.

Lost Song, a fantasy tale about two girls whose songs have the power to heal people and create water.

Rilakkuma, an anime starring the adorable cartoon bear who has been featured in multiple merchandising campaigns in Japan since 2003.

Sword Gai: the Animation, which concerns a legendary weapon that overcomes its wielder with a thirst to spill blood.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/2/16085266/netflix-anime-series-trailers-release-dates


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It seems our hobby will be losing its niche status, i just hope authors creative freedom wont suffer in order to not offend a selected few sensibilities.
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Netflix is producing. Amazon Strike is licensing. Netflix is actually partnering with anime studios to make new shows.

Pretty big difference.


This.

If I can recall right, they mentioned in the beginning of 2016 that they were seeking to make new anime shows unlike Anime Strike.
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I don't mind Netflix rebooting a few older series, hopefully they can make some sequels to unfinished anime as well.
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I am more concerned about Amazons hefty double paywall then Netflix. I have an acct(netflix) and their anime section honestly is crap. Sidonia season 1 was good for a sort of first attempt. However, season 2 was like th train derailed and hopped onto another track leaving me like . Honestly i could care less if Netflix wants to make their own anime. My question is are they actually paying their staff reasonable wages(I.e not $800 for 400hrs of work a month).

Netflix sub prices are not so out of control like a prime membership is so if they get a foothold I can deal with dual subs. It seems the only people who don't see Amazon's double paywall as an issue are the ones who already pay the $100 prime membership. Paying $14/mo for netflix sucks but its affordable even when coupled with CR sub price. However for those of us who don't have prime membership the $100+ price tag for admission is ridiculous at best. All this to say... Netflix good luck! If you screw up I'm dropping your crappy service!
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Those anime look kinda meh to me, they need to pick some better shows to make. I already have Netflix but I don't see myself watching any of them.
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My question is are they actually paying their staff reasonable wages(I.e not $800 for 400hrs of work a month).

Netflix isn't responsible for that. The studio they contract is. A number of their projects (Sidonia, Ajin, Blame have been done by Polygon, which seems to have a good reputation. They actually make their workers go home at night:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-06-07/how-polygon-pictures-is-changing-the-3d-anime-industry/.117129


Paying $14/mo for netflix sucks but its affordable even when coupled with CR sub price. However for those of us who don't have prime membership the $100+ price tag for admission is ridiculous at best.

Amazon Prime can be purchased monthly for $10.99, so with the added cost of Anime Strike that is $15.99, $2 more than your stated cost for Netflix (although I only pay $9.99 per month when I subscribe to Netflix).

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I personally have 0 problems with Netflix helping to bring more anime and such out. It's not like a double pay wall or anything. I was already paying for Netflix anyways. I have had a membership since the OG DvD days.

I don't like the idea of AS since it;s yet another fee on top of a fee, etc. Plus as others have mentioned Amazon is throwing money to get shows brought over. Netflix is throwing money to say hey... make this anime for us and our viewers... as well as money to license stuff too.

While it's sad that all the competition has killed other sites, like Daisuki, perhaps the competition is a good thing and opens up the dorrs to potential other shows getting over to Western Audiences (F U Harmony Gold(

I still find it odd I get all the anime on Amazon prime here in Japan without the pay wall of Strike. AND Prime is much cheaper here as well ¥3900 a year. 413 anime included for steaming. Yes even current shows:

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This.

If I can recall right, they mentioned in the beginning of 2016 that they were seeking to make new anime shows unlike Anime Strike.


It's certainly possible though that in the future Amazon would also get into the anime production business. They do have some other original programming, so this could also be a direction they go with anime.
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Netflix isn't responsible for that. The studio they contract is. A number of their projects (Sidonia, Ajin, Blame have been done by Polygon, which seems to have a good reputation. They actually make their workers go home at night:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-06-07/how-polygon-pictures-is-changing-the-3d-anime-industry/.117129




You cannot honestly believe that can you? Thats like saying its ok for a jeweler to sell conflict diamonds just because they didn't directly order the deaths. If netflix wants to do business with a company it is their responsibility to ensure the companies they work with are reputable and will not damage the companies name or bottom line. To say nothing of legal ramifications.

While the link you posted makes it sound like a reputable company the link itself doesn't say they boot them out. It just says they turn out the lights to "Encourage" people to go home. For an illustrator being paid practically pennies per frame with tight deadlines this would achieve nothing. Thus back to my original point I hope they get paid reasonable rates. We are losing amazing artists and directors in their prime because of exhaustion and overwork.
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Netflix seems to be banking off cheap Japanese labor via how the Animation industry there overworks and underpays the animators. This quote shows that intention, directly from Netflix:


https://www.wired.com/story/netflix-anime/

"About that $6 billion. It sounds big, right? But less so next to the $20 billion in debt and liabilities Netflix currently has on the books. No surprise, when a single season of House of Cards costs $100 million to produce. You know what’s orders of magnitude less expensive than that? Well, stand-up specials. But also anime.
“Typically it’s cheaper to produce,” says Rayburn. “You’re not paying all that cost that goes into sets and stars and all that. You’re paying for all the people who have to produce it, but it’s at a much, much lower cost.”


Yet here you can read about how animators are treated and paid in Japan, which directly links to why Netflix made that statement:

http://goboiano.com/anime-industry-faces-animator-shortage-crisis-that-could-damage-future-productions/

"Animators can work between 50 to 84 hours a week and only take home 92,500 yen ($870) to 235,000 yen ($2,189) a month, depending on experience.

Basically, they are either living below Japan’s poverty line or just above it. No wonder the industry is facing a shortage in animators and animation schools are closing down on a yearly basis."

Yes we can hope and by proxy have theories that Netflix will look at paying the Animators properly, yet do we have proof? The way they talk about it in the article sounds like they are gleeful at the cheap Anime can be produced at and would not want it to cost what it really ought to cost to produce. I am sure even the ones making more than the under-minimum standard of living aren't really being paid enough to compensate for the boom Anime actually is around the world.
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Wait, Sidonia no Kishi 3 and a Saint Seiya remake??

Thank you BASED Netflix. Shame I'll pirate them.
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You cannot honestly believe that can you? Thats like saying its ok for a jeweler to sell conflict diamonds just because they didn't directly order the deaths.

Conflict diamonds are produced under conditions akin to slavery. Low paid animators are free to walk out the door any time, and I've seen no stories that contradict that fact.

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