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mythrilmothV2 wrote:

You aren't just comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing oranges to paper towels. Also, bringing up piracy in this discussion is pointless. Piracy is always going to exist, and people are always going to find excuses to defend it to justify their own desire to take something for nothing.

Come back when you want to talk about the real issue.

Did you bother to read or even review the linked article? I suspect not, since it essentially agreed with your statement at the end of your first paragraph in the above quote. HBO made it easy for people to get the series in a timely fashion without a cable subscription and at a reasonable price, and they still pirated it in record numbers.

I'll wager that even if Netflix simulcast their anime series, you'd still see many people pirating with the excuse of "Well, I'm not going to pay $10 per month for only 1 or 2 anime per season".

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HBO made it easy for people to get the series in a timely fashion without a cable subscription and at a reasonable price, and they still pirated it in record numbers.


That probably applies to US residents but international customers may not be so lucky, a cable subscription plus a bundle (60$) are required in order to subscribe to HBO in Canada.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/22/hbo-game-of-thrones-piracy-canada_n_7120264.html

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That was only in the US, which accounted for only 10 percent. The rest were from beyond the US were things were nowhere near as convenient or cheap. Also apparently the article mentions that HBO now is tied to apple products.. which isn't exactly sending a strong signal about wanting as many to watch it legally either.

Soo.. I'd say they've got plenty of way to go in terms of actually making it convenient for people rather than convenient for HBO. Which is also the driving force behind Netflix and Amazon strike.. It's convenient for them, not for us.
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Also apparently the article mentions that HBO now is tied to apple products.. which isn't exactly sending a strong signal about wanting as many to watch it legally either.

Note the date of that article...over 2 years ago.

Here is what platforms offer HBO Now currently:
https://order.hbonow.com/providers

For those that don't want to click through, it includes Android and Roku, as well as being able to add on to Amazon Prime or Hulu subscriptions and view on any devices those platforms support (which includes via web browsers).

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More NETFLIX Articles



How Netflix Is Globalizing Anime by Renato Rivera ANIME NOW



http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/08/13/230023



A Closer Look at Netflix’s Upcoming Anime by Sarah Nelkin
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http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/08/05/050003
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FLjerry2011 wrote:

More NETFLIX Articles



How Netflix Is Globalizing Anime by Renato Rivera ANIME NOW



http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/08/13/230023



A Closer Look at Netflix’s Upcoming Anime by Sarah Nelkin
ANIME NOW



http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/08/05/050003


Interesting read but Netflix should really consider offering simulcasts, most of the international Anime viewership which they want to target likely access the seasonal shows though the darkside. Netflix offering their original anime shows in binge format even in Japan would alleviate the issue but the question is how would their Japanese customers base react.

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I'm about to finish LWA which is the only reason I re-subbed to Netflix. Afterwards I'll be dropping Netflix until the next anime comes out I'm interested in seeing. I'll be sending a polite email to Netflix explaining why I'm unsubbing and explaining their lack of simulcasting anime is the reason behind my choice to not remain subbed between "binge releases". Netflix is not just "leaving money on the table" by not simulcasting but honestly by the time they release a number of series the hype has passed, I'm deep in the current simulcasts, and unless it's just "must watch" I've likely "moved on".

Their system works fine for their originals that don't air anywhere but it doesn't take into account how the anime community has "jelled" since simulcasting became the standard. I compare it to the hype around Game of Thrones' current season. Half of the "fun" is discussing what happened in the most recent episode.
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Their system works fine for their originals that don't air anywhere but it doesn't take into account how the anime community has "jelled" since simulcasting became the standard. I compare it to the hype around Game of Thrones' current season. Half of the "fun" is discussing what happened in the most recent episode.

Imagine the feedback they might get from "normies":

"What is this foreign language crap? I expect shows in a language I can understand!"

"Where are all the episodes? If I wanted to wait a week for every episode, I'd go to Hulu or watch TV."

An obvious solution would be for Netflix to launch a separate service for subtitled simulcasts, but the problem there is they simply have far too little new content each season.

A better solution would be to purchase an existing anime simulcast service and use it for subtitled simulcasts, but I don't see them doing that. One reason is that Funimation will soon by owned by Sony, and CR has its own parent company. HIDIVE is technically independent, but most of us know it is closely related to Sentai. Also, Netflix doesn't have much of a history of acquisitions, with their recent acquisition of Millarworld being reported as the Netflix's first.

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No kidding. The amount of money Netflix could make by having more people subscribed for 3+ months instead of just 1 should be more than enough motivation. They're pouring tons of cash into the anime industry by helping to fund some shows so obviously they have someone who cares in a high position of power. Surely there must be at least 1 person high up who realizes that a large amount of their subscribers around the world watch anime weekly as it airs. And yet somehow Netflix views simulcasting as some alien concept that only Japanese people desire. This isn't rocket science. Whoever's making the decision to force 90% of their anime-viewing demographic to wait to watch a show they care about when many of them are already pirating should be kicked out of Netflix. Netflix is still super successful even without anime, but this idiot is keeping them from being as successful as they could be.
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domvina wrote:

Their system works fine for their originals that don't air anywhere but it doesn't take into account how the anime community has "jelled" since simulcasting became the standard. I compare it to the hype around Game of Thrones' current season. Half of the "fun" is discussing what happened in the most recent episode.

Imagine the feedback they might get from "normies":

"What is this foreign language crap? I expect shows in a language I can understand!"

"Where are all the episodes? If I wanted to wait a week for every episode, I'd go to Hulu or watch TV."

An obvious solution would be for Netflix to launch a separate service for subtitled simulcasts, but the problem there is they simply have far too little new content each season.

A better solution would be to purchase an existing anime simulcast service and use it for subtitled simulcasts, but I don't see them doing that. One reason is that Funimation will soon by owned by Sony, and CR has its own parent company. HIDIVE is technically independent, but most of us know it is closely related to Sentai. Also, Netflix doesn't have much of a history of acquisitions, with their recent acquisition of Millarworld being reported as the Netflix's first.



Couldn't they just add a check box in the settings section to "show simulcasts" which would be disabled by default! they seem to invest heavily into their interface so don't think that's out of their reach
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the Comments for NetFlix's Neo Yokio is really negative


Anime Fans hate Hollywood stars in anime / look at Scarlett Johansson in Ghost in The Shell

Or is it CR fans just hating NETFLIX ?? See the Comments I donr even think this on Japan Broadcast


Netflix Brings In Anime Talent For Ezra Koenig and Jaden Smith's "Neo Yokio" / Talent on the "postmodern collage of homages to classic anime, English literature and modern New York fashion and culture" includes storyboard work from Kazuhiro Furuhashi and Junji Nishimura

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/09/07-1/netflix-brings-in-anime-talent-for-ezra-koenig-and-jaden-smiths-neo-yokio


The rants are even worst AT ANN


NEWS: Netflix Reveals Neo Yokio Animated Series Collaboration With Production I.G, Studio Deen ( Comments)

https://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3072491&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


As an after thought even though I like some of "The Reflection" which is done by Studio Deen also doing Neo Yokio thet should stay away from American Anime
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Looks like a massive case of over-reaction to me. Neo Yokio looks fun. Typical anime fans lol.
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god that animation looked terrible
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GoldCrusader wrote:

Looks like a massive case of over-reaction to me. Neo Yokio looks fun. Typical anime fans lol.

Agreed, I sort of understand where they're coming from. My knee-jerk reaction said I should've hated it, but it actually looks pretty interesting.
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Honestly, if Netflix is supporting shows like Little Witch Academia, then I don't really care. That show was great and one of my favorites I've seen in years.
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