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Posted 8/5/17 , edited 8/5/17
:dragons in their legends/tales despite being so far apart in distance and time.

please no answers with aliens, other than that be as imaginative as you want!
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watch im about to be reported again for god knows what and this is my 3rd day on the forum. got some sensitive mods huh
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Posted 8/5/17 , edited 8/6/17
The most likely theory is dinosaurs. Huge bones, found all over the world. Their reconstruction of dinos were just a tad more whimsical.
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Alakawubz wrote:

watch im about to be reported again for god knows what and this is my 3rd day on the forum. got some sensitive mods huh


Mods don't report folks, we only deal with reports.. though I did modify your thread slightly (removed a trailing n, moved it to a better location), hope that helps prevent some reports or complaints about it.

On topic, I figure it's similar to most mythical beast stories - someone goes off to a faraway land, and they see something kind of interesting. They go back to tell about it, then at a bar/tavern/etc, the story is told again, and again, and eventually a 'large lizard' like a komodo dragon becomes huge and its bite, which contains tons of bacteria and such so it's quite bad, turns into acid that can kill from a distance...

Reptiles in general are considered either creepy or powerful (or both) by most cultures around the world, so it makes sense that bigger and bigger reptiles show up in stories after a few beers.
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Cavemen rode dinosaurs, so it makes sense.
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Cavemen rode dinosaurs, so it makes sense.


Dinosaurs and humans did not live at the same time on this planet. Far from it.

Dinosaurs went extinct ~66 million years ago. The earliest humans (if you count Australopithecina as humans) lived around 3.5 million years ago. If you only count members of the genus Homo, that's 2,5 million years ago.
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As I understand it, the dragons that appeared in Mesopotamian legends were mostly water dragons. The floods in that region were unpredictable, so maybe they turned something they saw in the water into a story that explained it. Then when people began moving beyond that region, they took the stories with them, where dragons changed to suit how they saw the world. I might be totally misinformed and way off the mark though.
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Kuschelpython wrote:

Dinosaurs and humans did not live at the same time on this planet. Far from it.


How else would we know they exist don't be silly xDD
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Kuschelpython wrote:


HateKillingCamels wrote:

Cavemen rode dinosaurs, so it makes sense.


Dinosaurs and humans did not live at the same time on this planet. Far from it.

Dinosaurs went extinct ~66 million years ago. The earliest humans (if you count Australopithecina as humans) lived around 3.5 million years ago. If you only count members of the genus Homo, that's 2,5 million years ago.


Dude, they were clearly taking the piss.
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I thought they modeled them after their smaller dragons down there
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Well idk it's prolly me just being petty, but its infuriating to get talked to in that manner and have you close the end thread before you can hear any re-butte and that wasn't a report at the end there?. I was very agitated Idk if I was a mod i'd do it properly as you did
but it sounded condescending a bit, and I'd warn me just as you did but just differently. And thank you for that, learn something new each thread lol. and i mean no disrespect!


I agree with @PumaConcolor on his assessment, and who wouldn't want to imagine some great tale if a group comes across some ancient and powerful looking fossils.

the only thing left is this strange this they're all way too similar. the statue found in northern Africa,with scales and breathes an element is almost identical to others found in counties around The world. also, they are almost always fierce deities. Idk, just interesting


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I have done research on this, as I like mythology, and liked to follow the trail back and see where it started. The earliest mention of a creature like a dragon, that I can find, goes back to ancient Mesopotamia, Kur. Now Kur had several meanings in Sumerian, it was one name for Irkalla, the underworld, as well as the name of a dragon. In fact it is meant to personify what is said to be the "first dragon."

Eventually, Babylonians would change this, and you had Tiamet, a salt water goddess of chaos, that was also personified as a dragon, or Apsu, a fresh water god, also a dragon. Kur would then become part of the draconic retinue of Tiamet.

However, I do find it funny as you do, how nearly every culture in the world, if not every single one, has a dragon or something very very similar and comparable. In Asia dragons kept their godlike natures as they did in Mesopotamia, while in Europe they became demonized and were more seen as beasts.

Fossils is a good answer. I sometimes wonder if it is just a self replicating myth of sorts. Like the heroic monomyth of the Hero's Journey, is the dragon simply a memetic entity that appears over and over throughout history, being spread in whispers, stories, and rumors, and like playing the game telephone, it distorts and changes, leaving the changes we see in each cultures version of a dragon?

Probably a mixture of both.
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Posted 8/5/17 , edited 8/5/17

HateKillingCamels wrote:


Kuschelpython wrote:

Dinosaurs and humans did not live at the same time on this planet. Far from it.


How else would we know they exist don't be silly xDD


lol
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cuz they're cool
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Alakawubz wrote:

:dragons in their legends/tales despite being so far apart in distance and time.

please no answers with aliens, other than that be as imaginative as you want!


The reason why there's a lot of dragon stories is the same reason why they also have a lot of religions. It's something that they made up.
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