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Favorite American Founding Father?
Posted 8/9/17
I've always been an admirer of Thomas Jefferson because of his ideas on the separation of church and state.
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

I've always been an admirer of Thomas Jefferson because of his ideas on the separation of church and state.


I too favor Thomas Jefferson. He used Wealth of Nations from Adam Smith to create the Constitution. I am enjoying the fruits of capitalism and democracy.
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Posted 8/9/17 , edited 8/9/17
From what I've read, I can't imagine how Thomas Jefferson, the Wealth of Nations, and the Constitution might have anything to do with each other, except for possibly in the unflattering Constitutional revisionism of Charles Beard.
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Posted 8/9/17
Probably Jackson. He knew what he wanted out of life.
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Posted 8/9/17 , edited 8/9/17
I don't think Andrew Jackson is a Founding Father. Maybe you mean William Jackson.
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I would have thought Hamilton would have been more involved with Smith's work, seeing as he established the Federal Reserve Bank before Jackson tried to give power back to the states in a disastrous decision ending in a recession.

It seems relatively little talk of capitalism is discussed in the constitution, but more or less an establishment of a more centralized government to replace the Articles of Confederation, which includes the right to regulate interstate commerce and to collect taxes, among others. This of course, paved the way for today.

That being said, I would believe the founding fathers would die of shock at seeing our current state of affairs.
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the old one
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Mmm. I guess Andrew Jackson was a bit young for it at 9, so that leaves Franklin who got what he wanted out of life, repeatedly and in great numbers. Plus he did not want to get paid for political positions.
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Posted 8/10/17
John Hancock... dude knew how to sign things with STYLE!
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Colonel Sanders
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Posted 8/10/17 , edited 8/10/17
Can I choose the one who wasn't a racist slave owning hypocrite?.....Oh wait there aren't any.

It wasn't until the goddamn 20th century Americans had leaders worth admiring.
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Posted 8/10/17 , edited 8/10/17

Ranwolf wrote:

Can I choose the one who wasn't a racist slave owning hypocrite?.....Oh wait there aren't any.

It wasn't until the goddamn 20th century Americans had leaders worth admiring.


fyi-
John Adams never bought a slave and declined on principle to utilize slave labor, saying,
"I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in such abhorrence, that I have
never owned a negro or any other slave."
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Posted 8/10/17 , edited 8/10/17

Jamming777 wrote:



fyi-
John Adams never bought a slave and declined on principle to utilize slave labor, saying,
"I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in such abhorrence, that I have
never owned a negro or any other slave."


I'd say that Alien and Sedition Acts of his was just as bad though.


Edit: I am also throwing in the fact he never bothered to outlaw the practice of slavery as well. Which makes him a hypocrite to.
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Ranwolf wrote:


Jamming777 wrote:



fyi-
John Adams never bought a slave and declined on principle to utilize slave labor, saying,
"I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in such abhorrence, that I have
never owned a negro or any other slave."


I'd say that Alien and Sedition Acts of his was just as bad though.


Edit: I am also throwing in the fact he never bothered to outlaw the practice of slavery as well. Which makes him a hypocrite to.


Should never throw, he tried with the Declaration of Independence in1776, could not get it in the final draft over southern colonies objections.
Posted 8/10/17

Ranwolf wrote:

Can I choose the one who wasn't a racist slave owning hypocrite?.....Oh wait there aren't any.

It wasn't until the goddamn 20th century Americans had leaders worth admiring.


William Whipple freed his slave because he believed that no man could fight for freedom and hold another in bondage
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