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If you actually sift through all the rambling hot air of the article the actual "proof" offered is coming from an anonymous source named the "Forensicator" who claims to have secret access to Guccifer's files that no one else has which only he is able to "unlock". Which he has analyzed the "layers" of "metadata" of. Which then indicate the transfer speed was supposedly too fast for the interwebs.

A second anonymous source concurs with the first. Then a third anonymous source totally confirms the documents were made to look Russian.

As for the internet speed thing, it is not unobtainable. Especially for a large organization that likely has a fiber connection like the DNC. It also doesn't help that he doesn't reveal the speed or connection he did his own test at and ignored that by his own linked sources Verizon fiber easily obtains the upload speed needed 3 times over.

So yeah, I'm still going to side on the overwhelming opinion of the US intelligence community instead of the "Forensicator" and his supposed secret files only he has.










Well you know how much these types hate anonymous sources unless it agrees with their message, but lawdog states that the people involved with the forensics are respected professionals. I guess we just don't know who they actually are.

I'm not going to bite on this article, I think it's more deflection. What you have to understand is that the Trump investigation is now so much broader than the DNC hack.
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There are a number of individuals named and fully identified in the article in addition to the anonymous sources, who have also been able to look at the metadata. Re-read the article.
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Assuming the metadata wasn't forged, at least.
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Well you know how much these types hate anonymous sources unless it agrees with their message, but lawdog states that the people involved with the forensics are respected professionals. I guess we just don't know who they actually are.

I'm not going to bite on this article, I think it's more deflection. What you have to understand is that the Trump investigation is now so much broader than the DNC hack.


There's a lot of supposition in the article about how said anonymous sources must be some amazing experts with insider knowledge but no proof of such. This is actually the second time this "explosive" story has done the rounds on the usual sites. I remember seeing it a few weeks ago as well.

The article is pretty terrible in conveying what the fark is supposedly going on from a technical standpoint.



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There are a number of individuals named and fully identified in the article in addition to the anonymous sources, who have also been able to look at the metadata. Re-read the article.


The article sucks and draws a conclusion that the original anonymous source did not make. I actually went and found this metadata layers non-sense the article is on about. No one writing about this report understands shit about it and is just waving it around as "proof" that the Russians weren't involved.

This is the actual analysis: https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/

It is not definitive as other professionals have pointed out in rebuttals ( on the site and elsewhere ) As it makes a number of assumptions about information he doesn't have. Such as the actual locations of the machines involved ( he doesn't know where the DNC servers are to begin with and he's assuming where the the files were transferred too initially ), that a flash device was used instead of a mobile device or slaved machine, on the "think time" gaps, so on and so forth.

Forensicator does not declare the Russians weren't involved and the core conclusion the articles are taking away from his analysis ( the transfer rate ) is the weakest one he makes. As he doesn't know the point A and point B, he's assuming a flash device based on the file system ( FAT ). However, the file system would be the same certain mobile devices ( no physical access needed ) or a slaved machine closer to the source ( instead of the beaming direct to Romania scenario, also no physical access needed ).

He does agree with VIPS in saying there should be more investigation into Guccifer, but he does not make any of the claims of DESTROYING THE FAKE NEWS RUSSIA NARRATIVE that every article about his work is making.





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I thought it was all Macedonia's fault, according to Hillary.
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Oh yeah the Russia hacked the election narrative. Based on Russian IP addresses and the fact that RT was usually lightning quick in reporting new WikiLeak posts.

That is all the evidence they have. Now Mueller wants to ask as many questions as he can in hopes that there is actually a espionage ring inside the White House.

Can't see into the future so no way to tell how this will end but there is definitely a group of people that desperately want it to be true. They are thirsty!
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the word "russia" should be banned

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Sogno- wrote:

the word "russia" should be banned

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Those dirty communists!
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