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The Charlottesville Riots
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A thread for you guys to discuss them, since the derailment in The Daily Donald has gotten out of hand.
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so what is actually going on?
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https://youtu.be/P54sP0Nlngg

Vice reporter embedded with the racist folk. Watch the mouth breathers try to formulate words.
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HateKillingCamels wrote:

so what is actually going on?


In short: white nationalists organized a protest in Charlottesville, Virginia over the town's plan to take down a statue commemorating General Robert E. Lee. From the videos I've seen they came looking for a fight with counter-protestors, being armed with torches, riot shields, clubs, and firearms. Reports of violence abound between the white nationalists and counter-protestors, with reports of white nationalists attacking clergy. Apparently Antifa and BLM joined in the counter-protests, and the whole thing was a general clusterfuck from the get-go. And then some skinhead ran his car into a crowd of counter-protestors, killing a 32 woman and injuring 18 others. And a police helicopter crashed while monitoring protestors, bringing the deathtoll so far to 3.


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https://youtu.be/P54sP0Nlngg

Vice reporter embedded with the racist folk. Watch the mouth breathers try to formulate words.


Fair warning for anyone watching that video, it contains disturbing footage of the counter-protestors being hit by a car.
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HateKillingCamels wrote:
so what is actually going on?


Horde of torch wielding Nazis, KKK and other white supremists show up at the University of Virginia.

People react exactly how you would expect to having a horde of torch wielding Nazis show up.

Nazi runs car into crowd of counter-protesters killing one and injuring several others.

Trump says nothing. Nazis are thrilled with glorious leader's unspoken support.

Social backlash begins as Nazis start getting identified on social media and losing their jobs, websites, etc.

GoDaddy tells the Daily Stormer ( premier Neo-Nazi site ) to pack its shit and get off its servers.

Kentucky accelerates its plans to remove Confederate monuments as a result.

After 2 days of being hammered from all sides for a staggering lack of leadership, Trump repeats scripted remarks randomly inserted into a speech about the economy.

Daily Stormer tries to move hosts to Google. Google tells them to fuck themselves.

Protesters start tearing down Confederate monuments in NC.

The night's still young though. I'm sure there's still plenty of opportunity for Trump or his Nazi supporters to do something else morally reprehensible. -.-











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Wait, wait, wait.

I hate to derail a tiny bit, but people claimed that it was some racist general, not General Robert E. Lee. I'm not a Southerner (Lived in California for all of my life except being in the Philippines as a toddler), but if there was ONE person that was fighting for the sake of the Southerner's belief in state rights rather than the right to own slaves, it was General Robert E. Lee.

Anyways, there's a lot of weird aspects involved in the case like how fast the car was going and such. As of right now, I'm leaning towards "manslaughter caused by self-defense". With the current level of evidence, if I was in jury duty and he was accused of murder, I would say innocent especially with the standard of beyond reasonable doubt. Of course, more evidence may arise in the future.
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I hate to derail a tiny bit, but people claimed that it was some racist general, not General Robert E. Lee. I'm not a Southerner (Lived in California for all of my life except being in the Philippines as a toddler), but if there was ONE person that was fighting for the sake of the Southerner's belief in state rights rather than the right to own slaves, it was General Robert E. Lee.


Robert E. Lee owned and beat his slaves.

But more importantly, you're talking about the 'Southerner's beliefs'.

The belief was literally owning human beings, and holding them in slavery for all their lives. In addition, the southern states separated because they wanted to spread slavery to the western states.

And it was not about 'states rights' because the confederacy forbid any of their states from abolishing slavery. So if you were part of the confederacy you didn't even have the right to abolish slavery if that was your choice.

So essentially the confederate monuments are in effect celebrating a legacy of human bondage, and American concentration camps.

There is nothing noble about the heritage of traitors who tried to tear apart the United States for one of the worst possible causes known to humanity.
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And a police helicopter crashed while monitoring protestors, bringing the deathtoll so far to 3.

Holy shit. I heard that the death toll was raised to three, but I didn't know that it was from a police helicopter crash.
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And here's an interesting tidbit:

Apparently another neo-nazi nationalist was outed by the press, and his own father has chosen to disown him:


'You'll have to shovel our bodies into the oven too': Father of white nationalist protester at violent Charlottesville rally publicly disowns his son
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4790168/Father-white-nationalist-protester-disowns-son.html

The father of a white nationalist who was caught on camera protesting at the violent Charlottesville rally has publicly disowned his son.
Pearce Tefft, whose youngest son Pete was among a group of white supremacists who marched in Virginia on Saturday, says his son is no longer welcome at family gatherings unless he changes his beliefs.

'I, along with all of his siblings and his entire family, wish to loudly repudiate my son's vile, hateful, and racist rhetoric and actions,' Tefft, of Fargo, North Dakota, wrote in an open letter to the Inforum.


And it's not even just this guy.

The main perpetrator who ran over the protesters he himself had a history of violence against his own mother.

These are problem children with troubled pasts. The primary targets for some of worst cancerous elements of society to try to recruit.
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Just a bunch of filthy racists. The trick is to just stay away and let them kill eachother.
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21stCenturyGemini wrote:

There is nothing noble about the heritage of traitors who tried to tear apart the United States for one of the worst possible causes known to humanity.

Robert E. Lee was one of the few opposing generals at the time. As a matter of fact, he only supported the confederate cause because his home state did.
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21stCenturyGemini wrote:

And here's an interesting tidbit:

Apparently another neo-nazi nationalist was outed by the press, and his own father has chosen to disown him:


Ugh. I'm having mixed feelings about the use of social media and such to out the neo-nazis. On one hand, Nazis suck. On the other hand, similar tactics have been used in the past to socially attack members of unions, civil rights groups, etc. Not something I'm all that comfortable with.
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Honestly I don't even know why you would be stupid enough to even protest or counter-protest while holding bats, tiki torches, and a bike chain. In no point in time, you should be inciting violence or trying to provoke violence by show of weapons.

Which both sides try to do. You see pictures where antifa are holding bats while neo-nazi are holding these torches. Just fucking protest without these weapons and stop damaging property and inciting violence.

I could care less if you love Hitler with a passion. Just don't be ramming your cars into people.


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Honestly I don't even know why you would be stupid enough to even protest or counter-protest while holding bats, tiki torches, and a bike chain. In no point in time, you should be inciting violence or trying to provoke violence by show of weapons.

Which both sides try to do. You see pictures where antifa are holding bats while neo-nazi are holding these torches. Just fucking protest without these weapons and stop damaging property and inciting violence.

I could care less if you love Hitler with a passion. Just don't be ramming your cars into people.




I agree.
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