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Posted 8/19/17 , edited 8/19/17

21stCenturyGemini wrote:

Seems the protests were a resounding success!


How so?
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21stCenturyGemini wrote:

Seems the protests were a resounding success!


How so?


If the news is accurate, the Free Speech rally completely bombed. Only one or two dozen people showed up. The rest either chose not to show due to counter protesting, or were physically unable to get there due to the crowds.
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There is no "Alt Left". No one on the Left uses that term. There is an Alt Right because the extreme Right decided that they needed to re-brand themselves, since the terms Fascist and Nazi automatically turns anyone with a brain off. People and the media should stop using a term invented by Fascists to soften their image. Just go back to calling them the Fascists and Nazis that they are.

Calling a thrown bottle of piss an act of terrorism is just diluting the term to the point of being meaningless. Throwing a bottle of piss is disgusting, but it isn't fatal or meant to kill. Running into a crowd with a car is intent to kill. They are two acts on a whole different level. Driving a car into a crowd is terrorism within certain contexts. Throwing a bottle of piss is just simple assault.

Trump calling anti-fascist protesters were anti-police protestors is pretty well Trump stating that police forces are Fascist organizations. He really is unfit to be POTUS, needs to be declared as such and needs to be removed as your constitution allows. The only problem is then you will have to deal with Pence as President.
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Mishio1 wrote:


The_Red_Spectre wrote:


21stCenturyGemini wrote:

Seems the protests were a resounding success!


How so?


If the news is accurate, the Free Speech rally completely bombed. Only one or two dozen people showed up. The rest either chose not to show due to counter protesting, or were physically unable to get there due to the crowds.


Additionally, the counter protesters were so great in number that they stretched for about two miles.



Free speech makes me happy, but free speech with people still unafraid to stand up to hatred and bigotry makes me even happier.
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Back in the 1960's, the left protested FOR free speech. Now the left is protesting AGAINST freedom of speech?


Hate speech isn't civil and shouldn't be confused with peaceful discourse. The right has a tendency to abuse and hide behind the first amendment at times.

Back in the 60's the times were a bit different also.


Hate speech is free speech the courts all agree. Now the lefties need stop being babies and grow some thicker skin.. If the lefties have the right to call anyone that disagree with them Nazis then everyone else has the right to do the same.. get over it hypocrites.
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Get out of my state Dark Phoenix
And for the record fuck Nazis and the Klan isn't something I need to say in 2017
Also one reason for radicalism in UK Muslims is cause they were priced out of the rest of London congregating them in slums. And Amyas I am actually horrified of you like I'm horrified of your vieas
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Get out of my state Dark Phoenix
And for the record fuck Nazis and the Klan isn't something I need to say in 2017
Also one reason for radicalism in UK Muslims is cause they were priced out of the rest of London congregating them in slums. And Amyas I am actually horrified of you like I'm horrified of your vieas


"NO" you don't even know shit about what I stand for. For the record I agree Nazis can go fuck them selves, the Klan can go fuck them selves, ANTIFA can go fuck them selves, Black Panthers can Go fuck them selves, BLM can go fuck them selves. All racist groups no matter what side they stand on can go fuck them selves. In same time I defend a persons right to say what they like, Because I believe in freedom of speech, what I don't believe in is the use of Violence of any level. Throwing piss to using a gun.

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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


The_Red_Spectre wrote:


DengekiFugu wrote:

^^^
Back in the 1960's, the left protested FOR free speech. Now the left is protesting AGAINST freedom of speech?


Hate speech isn't civil and shouldn't be confused with peaceful discourse. The right has a tendency to abuse and hide behind the first amendment at times.

Back in the 60's the times were a bit different also.


Hate speech is free speech the courts all agree. Now the lefties need stop being babies and grow some thicker skin.. If the lefties have the right to call anyone that disagree with them Nazis then everyone else has the right to do the same.. get over it hypocrites.


Free speech or Freedom of speech only protects you from the government it doesn't protect you from getting your ass handed to you if you say the wrong thing to some people

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Free speech or Freedom of speech only protects you from the government it doesn't protect you from getting your ass handed to you if you say the wrong thing to some people



You're right, that's what the 2nd Amendment is for.


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uncletim wrote:

Free speech or Freedom of speech only protects you from the government it doesn't protect you from getting your ass handed to you if you say the wrong thing to some people



You're right, that's what the 2nd Amendment is for.




Yes but remember 2nd Amendment protects both sides
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Yes but remember 2nd Amendment protects both sides


That's how its meant to be. Just remember that it doesn't protect you if you were the aggressor in the first place.
If more people legally openly carried on both sides at these events and policed their own "side" I bet there would be a lot less random acts of violence.
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There is no "Alt Left". No one on the Left uses that term. There is an Alt Right because the extreme Right decided that they needed to re-brand themselves, since the terms Fascist and Nazi automatically turns anyone with a brain off. People and the media should stop using a term invented by Fascists to soften their image. Just go back to calling them the Fascists and Nazis that they are.

Calling a thrown bottle of piss an act of terrorism is just diluting the term to the point of being meaningless. Throwing a bottle of piss is disgusting, but it isn't fatal or meant to kill. Running into a crowd with a car is intent to kill. They are two acts on a whole different level. Driving a car into a crowd is terrorism within certain contexts. Throwing a bottle of piss is just simple assault.

Trump calling anti-fascist protesters were anti-police protestors is pretty well Trump stating that police forces are Fascist organizations. He really is unfit to be POTUS, needs to be declared as such and needs to be removed as your constitution allows. The only problem is then you will have to deal with Pence as President.


Saying there is no Alt Left, is not only delusional but also hysterical. If you can't acknowledge that "Alt Left" exist, I can wonder why some people are distorted on how Trump won. Unless you are part of the Ministry of Truth, which would make more sense.
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uncletim wrote:

Yes but remember 2nd Amendment protects both sides


That's how its meant to be. Just remember that it doesn't protect you if you were the aggressor in the first place.
If more people legally openly carried on both sides at these events and policed their own "side" I bet there would be a lot less random acts of violence.


I just don't think that would work you would have two heavily armed groups both having let say less then stable idiots one spark and you have a massacre

I say search and remove all weapons and give everyone a wiffle ball bat and then let them have at it
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DP0083 wrote:

There is no "Alt Left". No one on the Left uses that term. There is an Alt Right because the extreme Right decided that they needed to re-brand themselves, since the terms Fascist and Nazi automatically turns anyone with a brain off. People and the media should stop using a term invented by Fascists to soften their image. Just go back to calling them the Fascists and Nazis that they are.

Calling a thrown bottle of piss an act of terrorism is just diluting the term to the point of being meaningless. Throwing a bottle of piss is disgusting, but it isn't fatal or meant to kill. Running into a crowd with a car is intent to kill. They are two acts on a whole different level. Driving a car into a crowd is terrorism within certain contexts. Throwing a bottle of piss is just simple assault.

Trump calling anti-fascist protesters were anti-police protestors is pretty well Trump stating that police forces are Fascist organizations. He really is unfit to be POTUS, needs to be declared as such and needs to be removed as your constitution allows. The only problem is then you will have to deal with Pence as President.


Honestly, calling antifa the alt-left is a mercy. You can either seperate the extremists from the mainstream version of the ideology or assume the extremists are the mainstream version of the ideology. Do you really want the average layman to assume the mainstream left is congrurous with violent protesting? All that will lead to is Trump winning harder next term.
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