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Post Reply Why are so are so many Weebs racist, sexist, homophobic, and/or transphobic?
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 9/8/17
I don't think it's really the influence of anime that's responsible, just the kind of people who spend all day posting on forums and who are especially enthusiastic about entertainment media tend to be social pariahs for one reason or another. People like that are more likely to cultivate hateful, bigoted views, and lash out at the society they feel has rejected them. You see the same thing on most other major forums related to entertainment.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17

Cait_Sidhe wrote:

I'm not sure I would go that far. I get the feeling that I perceive it occurring more often than you might if you can count the occurrences on your fingers. Then again - that may also just be a negativity bias on my part.

Not really. I have 4000 posts on this forum alone. Which goes without saying that I have seen at least a page worth of posts on every topic that I have posted in, and, in many cases (not as often now as I used to), I have even played catch-up on certain topics.


I guess I might be contradicting myself a bit. I do personally believe that it's a vocal minority, but I don't necessarily want to make it sound like it's not an issue to be concerned with or addressed.

From my experience, the explicitly racist comments are typically erased (by mod), so I more than likely have not seen many of them, but even the ones that you do occasionally see them from are/were from the same people or an alt account. Often times, implicit racism just gets ignored on the basis that most people probably think he is trolling or just do not want to associate with nor respond to that particular behavior.

I am not saying that it isn't something that can or should be addressed, I am just saying it isn't a problem in the magnitude that OP has declared it to be.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17

Cait_Sidhe wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Cait_Sidhe wrote:

kind of like a negativity bias.

Not kind of. That is exactly what it is. In my time on this board, I could count on my fingers how many times I have seen a blatantly racist comment, and I have only seen a small handful of other comments that have implicit racism.


I'm not sure I would go that far. I get the feeling that I perceive it occurring more often than you might if you can count the occurrences on your fingers. Then again - that may also just be a negativity bias on my part.

I guess I might be contradicting myself a bit. I do personally believe that it's a vocal minority, but I don't necessarily want to make it sound like it's not an issue to be concerned with or addressed.

But I guess now I'm just not making any sense lol.

Basically, yes - negativity bias. But I myself wouldn't put that in a tone quite so... dismissive? There's probably a better and less accusatory word I could have used there, but I can't think of it lol.


It is possible that our perception of a forum user is painted by a few comments more toxic than the rest. The whole idea of they "admitted" to having so and so view that is definitely racist, therefore, any posts of theirs in the same viewpoint one of their views would have can be considered as such.

I consider it a reasonably "fair" view, but in terms of comments, I cannot say every comment is indicative of racism, putting aside my bias. The consistent negativity that continues from one comment may linger, I imagine.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
I certainly find CR to be far more toxic than any of the facebook groups I am in. And some of those are populated by people who take pride in being insensitive pricks.
Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17

CodyJJ wrote:

I have seen a lot of posts, threads, and comments on Crunchyroll/other anime sites


Me too!



and there always seems to be a common theme:


Anime!



Many people who watch anime tend to have negative opinions on races other than their own, on women, on people that identify as homosexual, and on transpeople.



Oh... well I haven't gotten that impression. Since we've both "seen a lot of posts, threads, and comments on Crunchyroll/other anime sites" you would think we would come to the same conclusion right? Funny that.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
From my experience I've seen the opposite; people I know that are fans of anime seem much more forgiving of pretty much anything lol.
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I have a great relationships with the blacks.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
^ LMAO


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

I certainly find CR to be far more toxic than any of the facebook groups I am in. And some of those are populated by people who take pride in being insensitive pricks.

I am sorry that you get offended, but that does not necessarily imply racial bias.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
The people who have the most time to post their opinion in something completely unrelated are those who have literally nothing better to do.

Most hardcore anime fans I know of just stay away from most anime boards bc those sorts of people you mention in the OP are everywhere and they are literal cancer. I don't go around judging people for who they are or what they like but a lot of these people with that much time on their hands do just that.

Its also the reason I hate 4 chan, never liked that place. Pretty much the cesspool of the internet and I have not seen once thing coming out of those boards that isn't either trolling or just plain idiocy.

I watch a crap ton of anime, but because I'm so busy watching or messing around with anime related things (visual novels for one) I and many other more normal and accepting/don't really care people just don't comment.

Also, good luck if you want to hang out with people with varied interests if you hold those views. Some of my friends are Fujoushi, as a guy I actually don't care if they like it and actually encourage them to go pursue their interests like I do with my visual novels, but I would never say anything negative about them just because they like BL and stuff. Even if they were to joke around using me in hypothetical situations, I just find it funny(in an interesting way).

I know for a fact that basically my group of friends will not be ok with rooming with a really backwards person for an anime convention bc then you'd have to deal with their bullshit all the time.

Long story short: Those who are racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic should be a vocal minority with way too much time on their hands. They don't even realize that anime covers a lot of topics which would conflict with those very ideals. Racism - Most of the characters unless otherwise stated are seen as Japanese or Asian and the hair color and eye color is a stylistic choice rather than a descriptive one so you can't tell anything by hair or eye color, Sexist - well we have a lot of empowered female characters and they are really well received as well as entire genres dedicated towards a primarily female audience, Homophobic/transphobic - Please tell me again how you hate traps or Shoujo Ai or Shounen ai but are completely ok with incest lol.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17

papagolfwhiskey wrote:

I certainly find CR to be far more toxic than any of the facebook groups I am in. And some of those are populated by people who take pride in being insensitive pricks.


I never knew their were facebook "groups" everything I like I just flame with being a jerk most of the time unless it's really serious, then I give a realistic answer because unless it's serious, I don't care about it.

However, I agree that the toxicity on CR is pretty high. Most people here just come here to be jerks for the most part, it kind of gets annoying to a point. Some people just say something, something simple even, and get pages and pages of hate and the thread goes out of control.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
In fairness the toxicity of GD has risen alongside the rise of Trump and the toxicity of American politics as a result.

It didn't use to be this bad.

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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
Do you really expect to get any unique, original information by asking this question? If you've been on the internet enough, it's not that hard to predict how everyone will respond. (PV you can't predict so well. which is why he was able to say something interesting above.) Of course, I don't think your goal in asking this question is actually to learn something; you almost certainly made this thread only to signal to the internet that you are better than the aforementioned weebs. You can say your post isn't meant to demonize people, but that means nothing if that's what it actually does. You might as well have asked: "I'm curious: why are people stupid assholes who think things I know are dumb and evil? Oh, and don't worry that I'm a white male: my slacktivist, public cashing-in on the oppression of marginalized groups draws attention to their plight and thus helps them!"

Not that I won't answer your question: See, people are tribal - and petty. We don't like people who are different from us, and it's really easy to dislike people who are a certain way when there aren't very many of them: they don't have the power. That alone explains in its entirety why people are racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic; there are tons of details, but they all fall under a historical analysis of who holds the power in society. In other words, go read Foucault (you almost certainly have not read him, since you wouldn't be so unaware of yourself as to make this thread if you had). Second, the internet encourages people to talk: we currently live in an individualist society that teaches us to look within and rely upon ourselves to obtain knowledge instead of relying on some external authority. The combination of anonymity, the ease of communication, and our need to test and justify the ideas and personalities we've created for ourselves makes us argue about things online. The internet also makes us addicted to external validation and attention-seeking; people need validation from other people who agree with them, because other people keep hurting their feelings. And online is where the people are. So it only makes sense that you'd see a bunch of hateful and exclusionary views online; it's not that the weebs are horrible, but that everyone is horrible, weebs are a subset of everyone, and the internet makes people want to express themselves in stupid ways. There may be some selection bias, of course, but I don't see it as all that relevant for the big picture. The real selection bias is in what we as individuals see: I'm more likely to consider your astonishment at the hatred both naive (because you don't understand human nature) and feigned (because you want to set yourself up as moral). Tribes have their own sets of behavioral instructions - like ready-made scripts for your life. For example, these scripts determine almost entirely how a person behaves online; this is why all the comments and ideas in political threads are what they are - and why they're all exactly the same. People let others do their thinking for them, to the point that they only see the problems they want to see. Are discriminatory comments really everywhere? I'd probably say yes, but what makes you think so? That's why you made this thread, for example: you're a "good" person who's just "curious," and you want to make things better. You might want to think about who gave you that script.
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/26/17
The obvious mistake is assuming that people who sit and troll GD are the majority. If you believe that... well, feel free to enjoy the Mire that is GD more often than not. Knowing plenty of people from actual real life (yes, call me crazy) that i have met in various places ( airports, (JAPAN of all places) and many other spots in between, Drowning Hate and overcoming it with kindness is is the only way to get past it. /donerantingfornow
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Posted 8/25/17 , edited 8/28/17
Just wrote long Paragraphic and than I went into next room and it got deleted! LOL

Was explaining that, its all base on how we were taught growing up. In every television or movie it alway show someone getting angry or feeling sick when talking about Gay, Les.. Also there alway comedy show about making fun of someone having sex with Woman who turned out to be [derogatory term for intersex or transgender person removed by mod.]




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