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Swedish "Minister of Culture" ordered Viking artifacts to be melted down for scrap metal
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how to destroy history in one easy session. next they will want to black out, reprint and burn old books so they can erase it even further. this isn't nothing new when it comes to societies destroying history, America did it and is currently doing it... some day a culture/society will think for themselves and not simply copy something else. poor history and artifacts...
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niotabunny wrote:

how to destroy history in one easy session. next they will want to black out, reprint and burn old books so they can erase it even further. this isn't nothing new when it comes to societies destroying history, America did it and is currently doing it... some day a culture/society will think for themselves and not simply copy something else. poor history and artifacts...


You are literally responding to white nationalist lies and trash.

That article is intentionally dishonest.

They mix in 25% truth with 75% lies on random sites hoping to elicit racist reactions based on those lies.
Posted 8/26/17 , edited 8/26/17

21stCenturyGemini wrote:

You are literally responding to white nationalist lies and trash.

That article is intentionally dishonest.

They mix in 25% truth with 75% lies on random sites hoping to elicit racist reactions based on those lies.


Which article? The Swedish ones?



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thanks to the net I can confirm that is what they are doing, I don't trust sources so I tend to search to confirm further. when several sites state the same source, then does that mean all of them are "white nationalists"?

just for the record, sources show that their excuse for the melt is so they can afford the right to house immigrants. so, they are destroying history with this method.

in my opinion, any country or political party wishes to melt down/destroy artifacts/other as they slowly erase it from books by blacking out, reprinting and then burning, that could be grounds of destroying history. I haven't majored in history or anything, but sources state if you delete/destroy we will be doomed to repeat it. not to mention if people don't pay attention in the first place, there's no sense to destroy books just yet, just the artifacts we see on a daily basis, that helps destroy history a tiny bit at a time.

just for the record, Vikings were not any color but all color, they were a nation of many nations, who took in slaves, strays, etc. here's a link I found via quick search http://listverse.com/2009/04/21/top-10-misconceptions-about-the-vikings/ feel free to search further and see what can be learned about this nation. in a way sounds somewhat similar to what happened to some tribes of the natives in the states, many lost to history including their artifacts.
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srlan23 wrote:
That's not what the linked article says.



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I do believe you're leaving out a substantial amount of information around this story; information that was even included in the article you linked in your original post, even.



getintheVandell wrote:
Upon reading the article, you know what one finds? It was one museum doing it, on their own, because of market forces pressuring them to have to sell them to the highest bidders that are buying it for scrap metal.


Welcome to your first Amyas thread. You have my sympathies.

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I'm not even surprised anymore, after the statues and sunken warships, what next? Historical landmarks?
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niotabunny wrote:

thanks to the net I can confirm that is what they are doing, I don't trust sources so I tend to search to confirm further. when several sites state the same source, then does that mean all of them are "white nationalists"?

just for the record, sources show that their excuse for the melt is so they can afford the right to house immigrants. so, they are destroying history with this method.

in my opinion, any country or political party wishes to melt down/destroy artifacts/other as they slowly erase it from books by blacking out, reprinting and then burning, that could be grounds of destroying history. I haven't majored in history or anything, but sources state if you delete/destroy we will be doomed to repeat it. not to mention if people don't pay attention in the first place, there's no sense to destroy books just yet, just the artifacts we see on a daily basis, that helps destroy history a tiny bit at a time.

just for the record, Vikings were not any color but all color, they were a nation of many nations, who took in slaves, strays, etc. here's a link I found via quick search http://listverse.com/2009/04/21/top-10-misconceptions-about-the-vikings/ feel free to search further and see what can be learned about this nation. in a way sounds somewhat similar to what happened to some tribes of the natives in the states, many lost to history including their artifacts.


There are so far two sources: two scandinavian articles that bemoan the fact that this museum has to melt viking artifacts for scrap.

If you see a non-scandinavian article or a person talking about this and trying to relate it to feminism/white culture/immigrants, guess what, they don't have a goddamn clue what they're talking about and are just editorializing their opinion and-or purposefully exaggerating the stakes.
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It's sad to see the very few artifacts of my ancestors being tossed aside. Some of historys most important finds were finds from a parking lot or digging at a house.

We know very little about viking weapons, armor, and technology. Most of it is over 1000 years old and most of our knowledge of the vikings comes from the enemies they were raiding. While they might be famous they is very little historical information.


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Sort of like when America melted down all of the swords taken from WW2.


You mean the Japanese ones? Most of them were designed as stamped swords to be used in Seppuku and used low quality metal. Not much from todays Chinese mass produced swords.
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this quote made me laugh at first but then when take a step back and think it be like yes scary thought.



Yep i half said it as a joke and even a bit of a troll but was half serious.
When you think about how much we bend over for them but not for Christianity and not for our own culture(s) and history(well they do tend to focus on the bad history, not the good and still are erasing it either way) it can be a scary thought.
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As I cannot read swedish I am unable to read the link. Though I am curious how a musuems poor choices got turned into some sort of racial left vs. right wing debate? If there is nothing that directly states this is some form of racial issue(which is hard to believe since Vikings were a heinz 57) then making it a racist topic is a straw man argument. The links I have found on the issue ask the following which I believe are valid questions
#1 Why was this process of systematically destroying artifacts kept secret.
#2 if archaeologists who dug up these items were upset about the decision why was there no further inquiry as to whether the idea was good or not
#3 Why were no other museums contacted? It would seem logical that if you cannot afford to keep an archaeological find others would.

Forget about the argument of black market. Selling artifacts is FAR more profitable then scrap. Scrap iron in Europe looks like its currently $194.14 USD per ton. https://www.metalprices.com/metal/steel-iron-scrap/shredded-scrap-north-europe PER TON FFS... You cannot honestly tell me that you cannot get the equivalent of $200USD per ton of viking artifacts regardless of their condition. Thats absolutely absurd. Collectors from around the world would likely gladly pay several fold for even individual items. Black market is a silly argument as if the Museum auctions the items what black market is there? To say they are not allowed to sell to individuals ir horse sh** IMO. Lets destroy ancient artifacts because it might break an internal rule. It boggles my mind that readers can feel anything but disgust at a museum who destroys any artifacts over atleast the chance that a private collector could preserve them.
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Okay.
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21stCenturyGemini wrote:


niotabunny wrote:

how to destroy history in one easy session. next they will want to black out, reprint and burn old books so they can erase it even further. this isn't nothing new when it comes to societies destroying history, America did it and is currently doing it... some day a culture/society will think for themselves and not simply copy something else. poor history and artifacts...


You are literally responding to white nationalist lies and trash.

That article is intentionally dishonest.

They mix in 25% truth with 75% lies on random sites hoping to elicit racist reactions based on those lies.


As a swede I find it amusing how you claim SVD is nationalist lies. You're just making assumptions about them based on your own political standpoint. It would be one thing is the source was nordiska mosttåndsrörelsen because they are down right nazi, but SVD really isn't even close to nationalist. But hey to you anything slightly more right is prob considered nazi.

As someone who can read swedish I can say OP is the one who is intentionally dishonest. It's just one museum doing this and they did it for economic reasons. Their reasoning is they don't want to sell it to make money to help them as they think it will incurage more plundering of historical items. I personally think it's wrong what their doing as they could've easily given it to some other museum or something. But this is not politically driven
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21stCenturyGemini wrote:

They're not here to post facts.

They're here to create bigoted narratives and plant seeds of hate in people's minds.


That's exactly what's been plaguing the CR forums for a while now. It's pitiful.
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