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I'd say the opposite is true. Thanks to the internet more people are becoming educated and are looking at facts instead of blindly being told what to think by the media. I've been seeing tons of former crazies starting to rethink and eventually change into someone who follows facts instead of the latest emotional fad.


I've seen just as many people wander into the deep end of Youtube conspiracy videos and come out a different person.

We've reached the point where there is so much information and so much information that is directly contrary to other information, that it is becoming more difficult to discover what is actually true. I think people are becoming more knowledgeable, not more educated (though I may just be using synonyms and pretending they are different for the sake of discussion). People are acquiring more information about the world, some true, some false, however, they are not reaching a point where this information is enabling them to find the truth and make decisions based upon that truth.


I think the problem is that people absorb a ton of information with no absolute way of determining what is true and false. At that point, it arguably comes to blind faith. For all we know, the Youtube conspirators are 100% correct, and everything we take for granted really is wrong.
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At one point in time I used to argue and debate against conservatives as I was taught they were evil. They kept posting links to statistics and other facts that literally broke the nonsense I was taught growing up. I found myself wanting to resort to insults like much of the left does today but I knew that at that point I had lost. So I read their links and tried to debunk it then ended up getting convinced by it because it was logical. Then I went out and learned

I've met a great many people like me and it is happening more and more.


I've actually had a pretty similar experience. Not so much that I learned that conservatives were evil, but more that I was suddenly shown the faults in arguments that were previously left unchallenged through channels like Sargon and tl;dr.

That said, uderstanding the faults in one argument actually can lead you to being more susceptible to missing the faults in the argument that got you there. The trap here is that many people just trade in one dogmatic belief system for another without understanding that it is the method that should be followed, not the ideas.


Ah so you watch Sargon too. I watch his videos on occasion. He has some differing beliefs than me but I'd rather have an army of guys like him than the current left. Sargon follows what I call the classical left which is ironically too "far to the right" for a lot of the left right now.

It's been annoying me how much the left has been attacking him. If anything HE should be a celebrity among them:

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/08/sargon-of-akkads-account-permanently-banned-on-twitter/37224/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9-ZXsr148

https://archive.fo/ECOLK
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Ah so you watch Sargon too. I watch his videos on occasion. He has some differing beliefs than me but I'd rather have an army of guys like him than the current left. Sargon follows what I call the classical left which is ironically too "far to the right" for a lot of the left right now.

It's been annoying me how much the left has been attacking him. If anything HE should be a celebrity among them:

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/08/sargon-of-akkads-account-permanently-banned-on-twitter/37224/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9-ZXsr148

https://archive.fo/ECOLK


I used to watch him, but it got to the point where I knew everything he was saying (and further he got more and more troll-ish as time went on and that doesn't appeal to my sensibilities), so I haven't really watched him much lately. As for his mistreatment, it is unfortunate. I feel like he is one of the few highly divisive figures who are genuinely willing to come to the table and talk so it's unfortunate to see (though not exactly surprising).
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Posted 8/26/17 , edited 8/27/17

sundin13 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Ah so you watch Sargon too. I watch his videos on occasion. He has some differing beliefs than me but I'd rather have an army of guys like him than the current left. Sargon follows what I call the classical left which is ironically too "far to the right" for a lot of the left right now.

It's been annoying me how much the left has been attacking him. If anything HE should be a celebrity among them:

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/08/sargon-of-akkads-account-permanently-banned-on-twitter/37224/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9-ZXsr148

https://archive.fo/ECOLK


I used to watch him, but it got to the point where I knew everything he was saying (and further he got more and more troll-ish as time went on and that doesn't appeal to my sensibilities), so I haven't really watched him much lately. As for his mistreatment, it is unfortunate. I feel like he is one of the few highly divisive figures who are genuinely willing to come to the table and talk so it's unfortunate to see (though not exactly surprising).


A lot of Trump circles like him as a respectable liberal and we support him frequently. I never heard of him before lurking at the_donald but I've grown to like the guy.
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