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Posted 8/27/17 , edited 8/28/17
It really doesn't surprise me at this point. I still get a chuckle out of the left holding all the cards over the election season only to fail miserably. I'd imagine Minds is going to get a whole lot of new users though.
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Posted 8/27/17

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I think youtube is shooting themselves in the foot with this. If people start relying on patreon and other sources then their incentive to stay on youtube is going to diminish and they will hate youtube and not want to use it.

Heck this is already going on with google and now they started a new war by fucking over youtubers:


If you lose the advertisers, you are in an even worse situation. Youtube's absolute number one priority is keeping advertisers happy. Does it suck? Yeah, but the alternatives are far from peachy.

That said, what is the alternative to Youtube? Theres twitch for a certain niche, but for actual, edited content, what else is there that has even a fraction of the popularity of Youtube?


While it's true that there's no real viable alternative to youtube (vid.me seems better but not by that much), that's only the case for right now. If there is demand for it, someone will make it eventually. It's only a matter of time.
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Posted 8/27/17

encrypted12345 wrote:


sundin13 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

I think youtube is shooting themselves in the foot with this. If people start relying on patreon and other sources then their incentive to stay on youtube is going to diminish and they will hate youtube and not want to use it.

Heck this is already going on with google and now they started a new war by fucking over youtubers:


If you lose the advertisers, you are in an even worse situation. Youtube's absolute number one priority is keeping advertisers happy. Does it suck? Yeah, but the alternatives are far from peachy.

That said, what is the alternative to Youtube? Theres twitch for a certain niche, but for actual, edited content, what else is there that has even a fraction of the popularity of Youtube?


While it's true that there's no real viable alternative to youtube (vid.me seems better but not by that much), that's only the case for right now. If there is demand for it, someone will make it eventually. It's only a matter of time.


And the competition will make the industry a better place, so I'm not exactly fretting over the potential acceleration of the timeline.
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17
Foamy the squirrel is awesome.

They are just doing this to cut people's revenue in half, it's just a business decision, like Amazon.

Look how much money they save! Good job guys, we can make more money on top of more money! But fuck the actual people who are making the content for thousands of people to spend their bandwidth on videos.

See, people get pissed off about this, I get pissed off about other things. YouTube isn't a platform to make money anymore...... sorry let me correct that, YouTube isn't a place to get rich anymore.

It sucks for people like foamy the squirrel, but hey, the rides over buddy
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17
I don't believe that Google or YouTube understood that their platform comes off as a public soapbox.
With that in mind, Google/YouTube are not required to make sure that people get paid to use their soapbox platform.
Advertisers were upset when they censored conservative values.
Advertisers were upset when they censored liberal values.
Advertisers were upset when they censored anything.
Being as Google/YouTube are semi-private companies, they only have to answer to their customers (advertisers), their shareholders, and themselves they aren't required to worry about what their "content creators" are getting demonetized for.
It is little to no difference when compared to being banned on a public forum, like Crunchyroll.
You violate the rules of a private organization or domain and they can, in turn, tell you to go get bent.
The demonetization process is, more or less, YouTube telling content creators that they're not being censored but they're not getting paid for everything they upload.
That's entirely up to YouTube.
They're allowed to tell you that they're not paying you if you don't fit a certain expectation that they have to ensure financial reimbursement.
The only difference between this and any other job is that you're creating content with the expectation of being paid for it.
YouTube does tell you that you need to stay within their guidelines in order to ensure that you'll get money for ad revenue before you even go through the process of monetizing your videos.

The topic is incorrect.
YouTube is not "censoring" anything.
They are demonetizing videos without removing them or purging them from the creator's profile.
YouTube is simply running scripts or a bot that picks up what it suspects to be content that does not match the requirements stated in the guidelines in order to monetize your videos.
Censoring would be deleting these videos or making them inaccessible to the creator's subscribers.
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17
this pathetic little pacifier world, so much thin skin. things I think should be censored isn't what they consider such material. once freedoms have begun to be ripped away from society, then we become no better than socialist countries who could be considered to have some communist ties.

let them mouth off their problems, they aren't stopping those from uploading stupidity, and politics is just another varible of stupidity, just part a warning on it and/or age situation that people have to log in to see it, move on and thicken your skin, I would suggest the moving on and thickening of skin first however.
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17

niotabunny wrote:

this pathetic little pacifier world, so much thin skin. things I think should be censored isn't what they consider such material. once freedoms have begun to be ripped away from society, then we become no better than socialist countries who could be considered to have some communist ties.

let them mouth off their problems, they aren't stopping those from uploading stupidity, and politics is just another varible of stupidity, just part a warning on it and/or age situation that people have to log in to see it, move on and thicken your skin, I would suggest the moving on and thickening of skin first however.


Youtube isn't preventing anyone from uploading political videos .
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17
Yeah, it's dumb.
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17
censorship is a new territory. as far as youtube goes anyone can upload anything if you're not banned and/or a member, it's the "censorship" that gets you, what they deem bad they will delete, sometimes without warning and could risk the loss of account. so, no youtube isn't banning anything, just deleting what they declare to be "harmful", "hateful", etc.
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Posted 8/28/17 , edited 8/28/17
what amazes me more is some of the people calling this censorship are the same people who were all to happy to take the advertisers from gaming websites (and quite rightly so) when the gaming sites turned on there audience and silenced discussion, then it wasn't censorship but now that it's happening to them CENSORSHIP

also, do these people even realise that for the longest time you couldn't make money from ad's on youtube. this is a relatively new thing, now it seems it's not worth it business wise. as for the political youtubers claiming this is censorship, if your word is only as much as your willing to be paid for it your word wasn't worth much in the first place.
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Posted 8/28/17

niotabunny wrote:

censorship is a new territory. as far as youtube goes anyone can upload anything if you're not banned and/or a member, it's the "censorship" that gets you, what they deem bad they will delete, sometimes without warning and could risk the loss of account. so, no youtube isn't banning anything, just deleting what they declare to be "harmful", "hateful", etc.


In the case of this thread, it isn't even that.
Rather than deleting, they're ensuring that the content creator isn't getting any money for ad revenue to certain videos that are considered "harmful" or "hateful" (etc...) based on what their advertisers have requested them to do so.
It's the case where the users believe that they're entitled to make money based off of whatever they upload.
YouTube has always informed them that this is not the case.
Creators have to follow guidelines in order to have videos monetized and YouTube can demonetize videos at their discretion.
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Posted 8/28/17
been awhile since I played around on youtube, never uploaded, but a couple years back read the TOS, wow that was fun. so, that makes more sense now, to ban the truly harmful ads, such as pro that should really be anti. and I have a feeling they have been to "school" and/or education classes to know a from b.

I have yet to understand the concept of making money from the stuff they park on that site or any site, however I'm not that sort of artist, so it's understandable for me not to understand that concept. thanks for clarifying that.
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Posted 8/28/17
it's no longer YOUTUBE but OURTUBE


LiberalTube is the norm now a day-- so create some other platform.. or try dailymotion ?
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Posted 8/28/17
Everybody loves the free market until they're on the receiving end of it.
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Posted 8/31/17
Ehh...not surprised. YouTube was inevitably going to do down the drain, like previous power houses, (Myspace, Yahoo, etc.) It was only a matter of time.
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