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Bedford police posted this on their twitter:




https://twitter.com/bedspolice/status/891373001689759744



Are they trying to say that going to the gym makes you a right wing extremist? Or is there some sort of hidden message here that I am not seeing?

This doesn't make sense to me @[email protected] Isn't going to the gym a good thing since it keeps people healthy?












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Actually click the link for once.

https://www.crosstheline.co.uk/ctl

Starts out innocently meeting someone at the gym, then gym person invites the person to hang out. They keep hanging out then they go to some rally thing and it gets violent. Then people die.

It's a pretty lame campaign tbh, but the first screen in that photo has nothing to do with right wing extremism (just a poorly chosen photo on their part), it's just the innocent first encounter and it escalates.
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this is weird and not so good
for people that go to the gym
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Holy crap this is old...we had a giggle over this at r/nottheonion. and r/kotakuinaction
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Ryulightorb wrote:

Holy crap this is old...we had a giggle over this at r/nottheonion. and r/kotakuinaction


Hey, last July isn't old!

And if Ruji wishfully tries to Trump-spin British extremists as being the same as US red-state extremists, maybe he should go down to Wembley Stadium and talk to some nice friendly Football Hooligans...Invite them out for tea, crumpets and some nice race-bashing, what-what?
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Rujikin wrote:
Are they trying to say that going to the gym makes you a right wing extremist? Or is there some sort of hidden message here that I am not seeing?

This doesn't make sense to me @[email protected] Isn't going to the gym a good thing since it keeps people healthy?


No, they are saying that it can start out innocent and end up going a bit too far.
Going to the gym evolved into going to a "Youth Action" group.
Going to the "Youth Action" group resulted in learning how to defend yourself and fight.
Continued going to the "Youth Action" group ended up in the individual being encouraged to go to a protest to "fight for their rights".
The first time was peaceful and empowered the individual.
The second time things got hostile and violent and the individual ended up killing an innocent person at a protest.

Moral of the story is not to let your own views become radicalized to the point of rationalizing violence.
Because right-winged individuals are often encouraged to fight for rights that have been established for many decades, if not hundreds of years, it seems innocent until you rationalize violence.
Nationalism and being patriotic can easy be exploited by those who wish to use those two views to encourage others to "join their fight".
This action generates participants in all right-winged terrorist groups (KKK, National Vanguard, National Alliance, ANTIFA, ...) because it is not hard to find people who feel that there's an "injustice" in the country.
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Rujikin wrote:
Are they trying to say that going to the gym makes you a right wing extremist? Or is there some sort of hidden message here that I am not seeing?

This doesn't make sense to me @[email protected] Isn't going to the gym a good thing since it keeps people healthy?


No, they are saying that it can start out innocent and end up going a bit too far.
Going to the gym evolved into going to a "Youth Action" group.
Going to the "Youth Action" group resulted in learning how to defend yourself and fight.
Continued going to the "Youth Action" group ended up in the individual being encouraged to go to a protest to "fight for their rights".
The first time was peaceful and empowered the individual.
The second time things got hostile and violent and the individual ended up killing an innocent person at a protest.

Moral of the story is not to let your own views become radicalized to the point of rationalizing violence.
Because right-winged individuals are often encouraged to fight for rights that have been established for many decades, if not hundreds of years, it seems innocent until you rationalize violence.
Nationalism and being patriotic can easy be exploited by those who wish to use those two views to encourage others to "join their fight".
This action generates participants in all right-winged terrorist groups (KKK, National Vanguard, National Alliance, ANTIFA, ...) because it is not hard to find people who feel that there's an "injustice" in the country.


wow what happens if you are black and into martial arts? do you become black panther? I don't feel very pantherish.
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wow what happens if you are black and into martial arts? do you become black panther? I don't feel very pantherish.


Yes.
Yes.
Clearly, you need to become an African Prince to become the Black Panther.
To join the organization, you kind of have to be in your 60's by now.

[tongue-in-cheek]

I explained their entire campaign and what they illustrated.
The context of the tweet itself was the first part of the campaign.
For context: https://www.crosstheline.co.uk/ctl
Good luck, T'Challa.
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Posted 9/1/17 , edited 9/2/17

Cydoemus wrote:


Steelmonk wrote:

wow what happens if you are black and into martial arts? do you become black panther? I don't feel very pantherish.


Yes.
Yes.
Clearly, you need to become an African Prince to become the Black Panther.
To join the organization, you kind of have to be in your 60's by now.

[tongue-in-cheek]

I explained their entire campaign and what they illustrated.
The context of the tweet itself was the first part of the campaign.
For context: https://www.crosstheline.co.uk/ctl
Good luck, T'Challa.


Makes me want to practice. I'm getting older, so martial arts is a must in order to maintain what I have left.
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Ejanss wrote:

And if Ruji wishfully tries to Trump-spin British extremists as being the same as US red-state extremists, maybe he should go down to Wembley Stadium and talk to some nice friendly Football Hooligans...Invite them out for tea, crumpets and some nice race-bashing, what-what?


What is rather amusing is that some British right wing groups advocate that we should restore the good old days of the British Empire. Watch out Rujikin, the British are coming.
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LOL.

Can't believe I just subjected myself to that interactive "game" they linked to about "going too far."

It basically is just you deciding if you want to "go" or not after some innocuous text messages that seem like they're between some immature teens, then suddenly people are being attacked and beaten up without warning.

This doesn't happen in real life. In real life, you would know by associating with a group whether or not they would be likely to resort to violence, and that would be your cue to leave. They wouldn't have a peaceful protest, and then suddenly "turn violent" at the next one without a large shift in group membership or values. No reasonable person would ever, also, become violent simply because their peers became violent - though in all fairness, a lot of people are unreasonable.

The interactive sequence basically was garbage propaganda, encouraging people to not even attempt to join any kind of group advocacy or group claiming to "fight for your rights" because any such group "could" someday turn to violence without warning.

Sorry, but that's not how it works. I suppose as someone living in America however, my perspective could simply be different. Perhaps to those living in the UK, discouraging people from doing any kind of protest at all is considered "moral" or "just" in some way, because - apparently - people are going to all turn into violent criminals if they are allowed to do so!

In the real world, of course, those who are willing to commit criminal acts are able to commit those acts regardless of the situation in which they are placed. Being in a protest and having emotions rise simply makes it easier for criminals to behave criminally, but at the end of the day, they should take responsibility for their own actions. You can have perfectly peaceful and productive protests and advocacy events without needing to turn violent, but this only works if the organizing group actually tries to encourage a peaceful demonstration.
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dichologos wrote:
Sorry, but that's not how it works. I suppose as someone living in America however, my perspective could simply be different. Perhaps to those living in the UK, discouraging people from doing any kind of protest at all is considered "moral" or "just" in some way, because - apparently - people are going to all turn into violent criminals if they are allowed to do so!


Nope, we have been protesting in the nations that make up the UK longer than there has been a USA. But we also have authorities that sometimes over-react; from the slaughter that was the Peterloo Massacre of 1819 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre) to more recent cases of undecover police infiltrating protest groups, getting women pregnant and then vanishing back to their real life families (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/20/met-police-apologise-women-had-relationships-with-undercover-officers).

In this case if it is just a ham-fisted campaign to encourage people to think twice before turning to violence then I don't really see a problem.
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rawratl wrote:

Actually click the link for once.

https://www.crosstheline.co.uk/ctl

Starts out innocently meeting someone at the gym, then gym person invites the person to hang out. They keep hanging out then they go to some rally thing and it gets violent. Then people die.

It's a pretty lame campaign tbh, but the first screen in that photo has nothing to do with right wing extremism (just a poorly chosen photo on their part), it's just the innocent first encounter and it escalates.


Is that what it was going at? I wonder if the person who made it watched futurama and thought this would make a good RL PSA: https://vimeo.com/12915013


Steelmonk wrote:
wow what happens if you are black and into martial arts? do you become black panther? I don't feel very pantherish.


That depends... Do you hate Trump or do you think something else about him?
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Posted 9/1/17 , edited 9/2/17

Rujikin wrote:


rawratl wrote:

Actually click the link for once.

https://www.crosstheline.co.uk/ctl

Starts out innocently meeting someone at the gym, then gym person invites the person to hang out. They keep hanging out then they go to some rally thing and it gets violent. Then people die.

It's a pretty lame campaign tbh, but the first screen in that photo has nothing to do with right wing extremism (just a poorly chosen photo on their part), it's just the innocent first encounter and it escalates.


Is that what it was going at? I wonder if the person who made it watched futurama and thought this would make a good RL PSA: https://vimeo.com/12915013


Steelmonk wrote:
wow what happens if you are black and into martial arts? do you become black panther? I don't feel very pantherish.


That depends... Do you hate Trump or do you think something else about him?


Neither hate nor like, he's just another elected official. They come and go, and not much changes, except people become more stupid and weak. Or so it seems.
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