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Posted 9/1/17 , edited 9/1/17

RyukoKuroki wrote:

Peripheral Onii-Chan....



you just ruined Grave of the Fireflies for me...


Nah, I still love the movie.





I am just mad cause there is no incest.

Don't mind me...

*Retreats to corner*

To be honest, it depends on what worth the storyline would have, similar to how I hate shows like Scum's Wish and NTR Yuri. Those specific types of drama subgenres appear to be inherently worthless to me, where it is simply a bunch of people being assholes to one another, because someone else is an asshole.


Perhaps there is some worth to Grave of the Fireflies. Iunno.
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Posted 9/1/17 , edited 9/3/17
That's a tough one. I do think all of the Miyazaki films I've seen are excellent but, at the same time, Miyazaki gets so much praise it's pretty much immeasurable. There's basically no quality level of film that could actually live up to the amount of praise that Miyazaki gets.

So is Miyazaki over rated? Technically, I guess so but pretty much only because of how high the praise level is, not really because of how good the films actually are.
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Posted 9/2/17 , edited 9/2/17
Not all of the movie anime he made was actually directed by him and one of them that he actually did himself was the latest one and his earlier works..

I was in a panel for Howl's Moving Castle many years ago and the lead director was the one who did everything and made the movie , Miyazaki just look at it if he approves it or not
One of the audience asked something about how it is working for legendary Miyazaki and all of them in the staff didn't answer immediately , they said it was very difficult working for him becuase.... he is not nice... to put it plainly Miyazaki name is pretty much the brand name. I remembered those moments because it was almost a shock to hear it from them .My view of Miyazaki changed ever since that day.

So its really difficult to say which one he really did that was really good that we are all praising him for.


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Posted 9/5/17 , edited 9/5/17
Overrated? No. I like his movies, although i do have to criticize The Wind Rises. Not much but few things.
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Posted 9/5/17 , edited 9/5/17
Princess Mononoke reminds me of Sonic the Hedgehog, because both featured animals waging rebellions against humans and their reign of urbanization and industrialism.

I'm not kidding! Dr. Eggman is this human scientist bent on tearing down entire animal ecosystems to build cities and factories on top of them, as well as imprison animals in his robots. Sonic the Hedgehog and friends like Tails, Knuckles, and Amy Rose are these cartoon animals trying to fight to restore their forest homes and save their animal friends from that human industrialist.

And we can see that in Princess Mononoke. Humans tearing down animal ecosystems to build cities and factories. Animals fighting against humanity to restore their ecosystems. It's just that among the numerous differences between them both is that Sonic the Hedgehog was black-and-white, whereas Princess Mononoke was multiple shades of gray.
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Personally I think that Kiki's is the weakest overall. but that could be since it feels like it ends midway through and the whole Phil Hartman thing that happened to it in the middle of the English dub production which gave it a very disjointed feel.

On the other hand Spirited Away, Howls Moving Castle, and Princess Mononoke are great modern day interpretations of classic grim fairy tales as applied to animation. And I mean the original grim where things didn't get as sanitized as much for modern viewers.
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Posted 9/6/17 , edited 9/6/17
I have always thought about it. What makes people swoon over Hayao Miyazaki movies even when technically, they weren't even "his" movies exclusively. Like how every Disney film is not made by Walt Disney, but nonetheless, the branding is there.

Out of all the so-called Miyazaki movies, there's only a few that I like.I find the stories disjointed, like a drunken uncle weaving a fabulous yarn, inserting spectacular events in between if it got too quiet or too boring.
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Posted 9/6/17 , edited 9/6/17
I absolutely love Nausicaa, Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Howl's Moving Castle. I think they deserve to be called masterpieces.
I could see the argument that something like Kiki's Delivery Service is overrated because it gets lumped in with his best movies sometimes, even though it's just a well made but simple kid's movie.
I think he's a master filmmaker, and even his most "overrated" movie is still better than most of what's out there.
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/18/17
Yes, massively.
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The art and animations are great, the characters are interesting, the messages they try to get across are good, the fantastical elements of the movies are fun to watch; but when it comes to the the overall story of each movie, I feel some of them leave something to be desired for me. Like, at times, I feel I'm just watching events take place rather than a unified story.

So yeah, to me, they're overrated a bit in terms of story. There are just as good, if not better, stories out there.

But maybe it's just a matter of preference in story telling method. I heard a while back that western storytelling focuses on characters going through an arc while eastern storytelling focuses on the message and not necessarily a character.

So maybe that's it? I'm used to seeing character based stories while Miyazaki's films are probably more message focused. They're not my cup of tea, I guess. I still think some of them could be better at telling their story, though.
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/18/17

StriderShinryu wrote:
So is Miyazaki over rated? Technically, I guess so but pretty much only because of how high the praise level is, not really because of how good the films actually are.


I think this covers how I feel. The man and his opinions have become way overrated.
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/18/17
The films? No I don't think so. They are all quite enjoyable.

Now the man himself and people's opinions of him, that's an entirely different subject.
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/18/17
ARE YOU CRAZY?!

THEY ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 9/17/17 , edited 9/18/17
No, in fact they're underrated

Not a lot of people I know have seen or heard of them.

And they don't all understand the artistic themes presented in the films, they're used to Disney and Pixar, with more humorous themes.
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Posted 9/18/17 , edited 9/18/17
I have to agree that Miyazaki's films are excellent overall but I think Ponyo and Howl's Moving Castle are his two weakest films.

His best are Princess Mononoke, Castle in the Sky, and Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. But hey, That's just me.
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