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Wow, this topic has become heated!!! It's a good thing that we can all agree to disagree if not this subject would drag on forever!
I'm haven't research too much about Genghis Khan but from reading other people's post he sounded like a very interesting man. From my understanding wasn't he Mongolian? Correct me if I'm wrong, and Mongolian has a history of wandering and I think he was the first leader to have united the Mongolians and created stability.
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This is wayy off topic but yes Genghis Khan was a Mongol who united his people and was able to effectively conquer the largest contiguous empire. He was a brilliant leader who used his military to acquire power and helped bring a lot of reform to Asia. He was able to open up trade with Europe by taking over the Silk Road.

I don't know about the Hitler std thing though. The whole morale decreasing thing seems bogus to me at least. Provide a source at least? The worst idea in my mind would be syphilis though.
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jamehze wrote:

This is wayy off topic but yes Genghis Khan was a Mongol who united his people and was able to effectively conquer the largest contiguous empire. He was a brilliant leader who used his military to acquire power and helped bring a lot of reform to Asia. He was able to open up trade with Europe by taking over the Silk Road.

I don't know about the Hitler std thing though. The whole morale decreasing thing seems bogus to me at least. Provide a source at least? The worst idea in my mind would be syphilis though.


Thanks!
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jamehze go to this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_hitler
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the reason why hitler lost WWII was because he got greedy. he had a brilliant tactic of bombing the areas and sending in ground forces right afterwords so the people couldnt put up a fight. when he conquered france with this tactic he then turned to look at the british islands but his tactic failed there because of 1. he wouldnt have been able to get his ground forces over there fast enough, 2. british planes fought so hard to keep hitlers air raids at bay and they were completely successful and 3. when hitler conquered france he didnt destroy an army of 300,000 men and before he could the british had rescued them. now he got greedy by not trying different tactics to wipe out great britain and instead attacking stalin. this created a 2 front war which he could not possibly do against britain and stalin as russia is a huge country and his tactic of bombing and sending soldiers in wouldnt work.
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the guy was a great mover of people. he gave germany exactly what they needed after the treaty of versailles. anyone regarding him otherwise is to narrow sighted. his methods may have been unacceptable, but he still got a nation to follow him. i think he may have been very charismatic.
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OMG He is my HERO!!!!!!! He is sooo cool, I mean I totally HATE the guy but to be able to manipulate hundreds and thousands of people to actually find it acceptable to kill off an entire people.............. WOW as ^ red said He gave Germany the hope and encouragement that they needed, bringing them out of the deppression they were under, after The Treaty of Versailles. That treaty humiliated Germany and it's people. What Hitler did was unite Germany and manipulate it for his selfish needs!!! He was able to conquer sooooooo much of Germany!!!!!! I learned a lot, I'm still devising my plan......TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!! Though I have no plan of committing Genocide!!!! Nanchete!!!!!
That was WRONG (Genocide I mean)!!!!! Please do not hate me for admiring the guy, I absolutely agree that he is the scum of the earth for committing such atrocious crimes to all kinds of people because they didn't meet his standards, but the guy was a genious!!! SO Love me or Hate....it's my opinion!!!
Also two things disregarding this topic: both World War I & II were started by Germany!!!! Which leaves a lot to think..............
And After WWI the world promised never again....yet we have had multiple governments committing Genocide towards it's people and the whole time the people did nothing {UGANDA and now DARFUR!!!!!} Appearently history is bound to repeat itself...............
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Hitler was an awesome leader in my opinion. For some reason most people think he's "evil" or such is that because everybody gets their info from books, most of them which were written by a American or British perspective..or so I think..
Anyhow, yeah, he was great, led his people to great things, and so on..but he tried to do too much with too little. Shouldn't of attacked Russia, they had some sort of contract between them on being neutral to each other right??Correct if i'm wrong(I'm very bad with facts when i'm trying to think :D) Also, the harsh winter came along and pretty much that was one of the factors that wiped the soldiers out, leaving Germany and Hitler with only a handful of moves left. I really don't know why he killed the Jewish..(pm me on that, I really need to refresh my memory...) Plus, Hitler should of went out with a big bang instead of taking his own life... But...I don't really know much since I studied more on the Pacific War than the ones Europe and their surrounding counterparts...
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Ever read, "Mein Kampf"?

That crap is crazy.
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TheTravelingSword wrote:

Hitler was an awesome leader in my opinion. For some reason most people think he's "evil" or such is that because everybody gets their info from books, most of them which were written by a American or British perspective..or so I think..
Anyhow, yeah, he was great, led his people to great things, and so on..but he tried to do too much with too little. Shouldn't of attacked Russia, they had some sort of contract between them on being neutral to each other right??Correct if i'm wrong(I'm very bad with facts when i'm trying to think :D) Also, the harsh winter came along and pretty much that was one of the factors that wiped the soldiers out, leaving Germany and Hitler with only a handful of moves left. I really don't know why he killed the Jewish..(pm me on that, I really need to refresh my memory...) Plus, Hitler should of went out with a big bang instead of taking his own life... But...I don't really know much since I studied more on the Pacific War than the ones Europe and their surrounding counterparts...


Seriously You think he would have learned after Napoleon, He fell for the same thing!!!! What is it with Russia man seriously!!!! had he only not got full of himself, he would of achieved it ........ I think!!! Though I wonder if things would of gone for the better or worse?????? Though I dont think the world would of standed the things he did ( I do believe the HOLOCAUST did happen by the way if you dont) He did try to achieve tooo much!!! I"M NOT going to make the same Mistake, I even put Russia to be double checked!!!! I'll be Queen of the World
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TheTravelingSword wrote:

Hitler was an awesome leader in my opinion. For some reason most people think he's "evil" or such is that because everybody gets their info from books, most of them which were written by a American or British perspective..or so I think..
Anyhow, yeah, he was great, led his people to great things, and so on..but he tried to do too much with too little. Shouldn't of attacked Russia, they had some sort of contract between them on being neutral to each other right??Correct if i'm wrong(I'm very bad with facts when i'm trying to think :D) Also, the harsh winter came along and pretty much that was one of the factors that wiped the soldiers out, leaving Germany and Hitler with only a handful of moves left. I really don't know why he killed the Jewish..(pm me on that, I really need to refresh my memory...) Plus, Hitler should of went out with a big bang instead of taking his own life... But...I don't really know much since I studied more on the Pacific War than the ones Europe and their surrounding counterparts...


Yeah you're talking about the non-agression treaty. also the Jews were his main targets for reasons you still see today. They could downright make themselves useful no matter the circumstance. Besides they've always been persecuted since Biblical times. It's no surprise they could do marvelous things because they have to survive. Seeing what they got compared to the suffering Germans who basically got butchered by the Versailles treaty at the conclusion of WWI, that drove him crazy.

Anyways he was quite the admirable leader, but the applications were wasted on wrongdoings and got quite greedy (see above posts).
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hmm was hitlar crazy?? no i dont think so though lets flip this round. Evil is a label we give to actions of man. Evil is a word to describe an act. Thier are no such things as evil acts just what we as Humans class as evil.

So with that in mind Was hitlar wrong in what he was doing to try and achive a better life for Germans and he succeded during the 1930s. However1940s is a centry he may rather forget.

Anyway hitlar was not evil but more an idiot. He kinda lost the war to Germany. I mean very comeptent and good generals found it hard to do things cos he blocked them. This idiocy is highlighted with the seige of stalingrad and lenningrad. 2 far into russia and the russian winer is comming. Napoleon found out how bad the winter up there was for an army 200 years earlier.

So to sum up was Hitlar crazy no, Were his acts evil well label them as you will cos we already assatained that their is no such thing as an evil act just what we label as evil. So that leaves the 1 optioon left he was an idiot with some ideas and he had a good public speaking voice which appealed to a mass audience. With that and the times they were in anyone could be incharge. I mean look at the amount of extremist parties in controll of countries.
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Posted 5/9/07
If only the guy didnt get greedy and go for both Stalingrad and oil, he might of successfully invaded Russia is my honest opinion, and the war would have turned out very differently cause they would have only had 1 front and all of Russia's resources. But the USA would of just nuked Germany so yeah....

was Hitler crazy?

I say No. Actually personally I thought the man was a Genius.

what he did to the Jews and "Special" people was plain wrong but just think how the world might be if he DIDN'T do it? It would be a different place I honestly think.




Posted 5/9/07
I say he is insane not only because he allied with jap.
did not share with the RUSSians
trusted in Italy
bomb irrelevant cities
not take advises from his military advisers
fought the russian in their own cold territory
kill not only murderd jewish communites but any other race or cripple people

He tried to hide from the Allies so in result of his cowardness, he commited suicide by burning himself.

He did do one thing sane and that sane part his taking advantage of hung :: r ey bullied germany at the right place at the right time.
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