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I have seen a thread, "Small Breasts are better?" pop up on a fairly regular basis, even though it is an old thread. I have two thoughts on it. First, it seems a little mean. Girls can't do much about their breast size. I am somewhat surprised that the girls didn't put up a thread, "Small Penises are Better?", something boys can't do much about. My second thought was this: Like every other guy, I have an image in my head of the perfect girl, but in real life, it was just so much noise. If I was at a dance, looking for a girl friend, I looked around for the girls that didn't bring a date. Of those, I would look for the girls that were sitting alone. Getting rejected is bad, but getting rejected with an audience is so much worse. Of those sitting alone, I would always go for the most ordinary girl, because if she was too pretty, I would get nervous. If my dream girl was there, I don't think I could have screwed up the courage to go over and talk to her. On four occasions, a girl came over to me at a dance, and despite my lofty ideals of the perfect girl, I always found myself thinking, "Close Enough" and got myself some girl friends and a wife.

So, to pose a question that might prove useful to girls reading it, Where is the floor or how low is the bar which below you could not bring yourself to think "Close Enough"? For me, the floor would be a girl you would be embarrassed to be seen with but that would be a pretty open ended question. So, I am picking one attribute any girl could achieve though the time, effort and sacrifice might be daunting. So here it is:

If you where single, and there was a girl was walking your way, and she was physically fit meaning flat stomach and toned arms and legs, but her height wasn't what you hoped for and her hair was too short or you didn't like the color and her face was too plain, and when she got close enough, you didn't care for her perfume, would you still think "Close Enough" and smile at her, or put a look of horror on your face and turn away? If you think the bar should be different or you want to add qualifiers please go ahead and say that.
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Posted 9/4/17 , edited 9/5/17
The "small breasts are better" thread is a critique of how breasts are handled in anime and manga. Do not confuse it for a topic on RL breast size. Besides, even if it were, the thread is strictly about personal preferences. There is nothing wrong with both men and women favoring either or. Both sexes have their preferences on breast size, and it is a common topic spoken amongst us women. We usually focus on which we'd rather have, though.


As for your "for girls" question; it's situational, but you pretty well answered it on your own. Most people, regardless of sex, stay away from those they don't want to be seen with, and that's my basic answer.
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People actually think about this.

My response ( whatever helps you sleep at night )



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To the "small breasts" thread I dont see the issue as from my experience women with smaller cup sizes tend to be self conscious about it. If women who are self conscious know their cup size is what at least some portion of men find desirable I am not sure how that's negative., Same could be said with as you mentioned small penis size. How many studies have been done with men struggling with self worth because of their anatomy? If society as a whole had a frank discussion about it I think it would do wonders for both sides. My partner agrees with me on both aspects.

As far as the "bar" goes.. I would hope your not looking for a life partner solely on looks. If you goto a dance rejection would be the least of my concerns. what if the person your looking to hook up with turns out to be completely vile in nature/attitude? Also when I was in highschool the most popular(read pretty) girl in the school had a real issue finding a relationship. The issue being guys just felt she was way out of their league. I would say shoot for the stars but be willing to take the moon. Rejection happens, and usually you can ask the person why and get some ideas to where you may be lacking. However as your 64.... I have to question why you care(that is unless your age is false)
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Posted 9/4/17 , edited 9/5/17
There is nothing wrong with preferences, even they seemingly branch out into "noticeable" discrimination. It is sexual attraction; basically, "The heart wants what it wants" or more specifically "The penis wants what the penis wants" for that thread. The only bad type of discrimination here would be "unneeded", far beyond a socially and morally acceptable "not interested", in my unholy view.

That is just how people and attraction in general work. I am not sure how it is inherently mean or derogatory, unless one is trying to establish superiority as a fact unto itself, than preference they have, same with racial preferences and such.

I think a certain few are pushed by stereotypes, both from past experiences that form our connotations, to more intentional, flagrant, and demeaning thoughts, and the latter definitely should be contested to their accuracy, if anything else.

That being said, in terms of unnecessary discrimination, people should be more aware of their biases for the more extreme cases.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. To answer your question, I am indeed 64. I am married so I have been out of the game a very long time, but I have been watching a lot of anime, many of them high school based, and they have brought up many memories.

I must have worded my question horribly because people are reacting to it much differently than I thought. It was my intent to point out that any perfect girl discussion, whether real or anime, is fantasy. If other guys are like me, when you put together all the components of the perfect girl, including personality and intellect, you will have chosen some aspects that are mutually exclusive in the real world and that girl could only exist in anime. It would not surprise me at all that anime producers and artists are implementing their dream girls in the anime, the only place they could exist. Fantasies are great. I enjoy them immensely which is why I subscribe to Crunchyroll, but they are not reality and guys don't confuse the two, A guy no more expects to date his fantasy girl than he expects to date an anime girl. So if some girl is contemplating a breast augmentation because she doesn't believe she can compete, I would tell her to ignore anything she reads in a perfect girl discussion. Instead, look at reality. Look at newlyweds and young married couples and look at the women the men actually chose to marry. Oodles of A and B cups. I have checking the situation out for 50 years now, and it really hasn't changed much. A few more C cups then I remember, but still lots and lots of A and B cups.

The second point I was trying to make was related to the first, but I probably shouldn't have combined the two in one thread, and I must have worded that horribly also. I watch a cable show everyday called Namaste Yoga. It has always has 3 very flexible girls for each pose, but they vary throughout the show. It has a different scenery for each pose and meditative music in the background.. It is narrated by a soft hypnotic voice. Very relaxing and meditative. So after thinking about how perfect girl discussions are fantasy, I start thinking about the girls on this show. They are nothing like my fantasy girl. Their hair is too short. Their faces are ordinary. Their breasts are small. The only thing they have in common is that they are physically fit, what we called in the Kennedy era a "Sound mind in a Sound Body" and I find them attractive. Physically fit girls seem to be more confident, balanced and centered than the rest of us. So, I started thinking, is that not enough? Instead of girls fretting about their hair being too short or long or thin or full or curly or flat, instead of face makeup, eye makeup, push up bra's, fingernails, toenails, earrings, pendents, shoes and accessories, what if a girl did none of that? What if she just became physically fit and did nothing else but be herself. Would she still be competitive? If a girl is young and still has a high metabolism, I think they could become fit in less time than it took to grow their hair out, so would that not be something worth knowing? I think they would be very competitive but I am just one guy. No one answered that question so I guess it's just me.

Your shoot for the stars suggestion doesn't really work for me. There is a gag I have seen many, many times in movies, sit-coms and anime. The guy decides today is the day he is going to ask the girl out. He rehearses what he is going to say over and over, exploring different wordings and inflections, usually in front of a mirror, until he gets it just right and then he makes his move. He walks over to girl, opens his mouth, and something entirely different comes out, usually idiotic. Funny stuff unless it happens to you. It was not pretty. Thought I was just nervous and choked. It's not something you want to have happen a second time so I went for ordinary girls after that which didn't seem to be a problem. A couple a years ago, I saw an article in Scientific American about the very problem. "Why Interacting with a Women can Leave Men "Cognitively Impaired", by Daisy Grewal. The article was dated March 13, 2012. It would seem that if a guy walks up to a girl he does not know, but she is pretty and he wants to impress her, his mind becomes impaired. If she is pretty enough, the speech centers are affected. If she is stunningly beautiful, the speech centers might not work at all and he becomes speechless, hence the term stunningly beautiful. This does not affect girls at all. When I read this, I thought Mother Nature has one sick sense of humor. At the very moment when you need to be at the top of your game, your IQ drops 50 points. So, any girls reading this, if a guy walks up to you and he can't talk coherently, you are getting a sincere complement. If he can't talk at all, you are getting a very sincere complement. As for your friend in high school, I think she just has to walk over to guy she likes and talk with him. She will not freeze up.
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Posted 9/6/17 , edited 9/7/17
I usually respond to those sorts of threads with something along the lines of, "people are the sum of their parts." (Or something facetious like, "taste the rainbow" when race is mentioned.) Over-focusing on any one facet is like walking around with blinders on - there's a lot you're going to miss.

Confidence is certainly part of the sum (one quite possible to alter without surgery), and is a pretty big crowd-pleaser for both men and women.

Physically fit people do tend to be more confident, regardless of gender. I've known plenty of awkward, chubby guys, but those who played sports, worked out, etc. are usually more confident and outgoing. Too tired to look up any studies at the moment but as I recall, the science backs this pretty strongly.

To answer one of your questions, I don't think even confidence (as important as it is) can serve as the sole point of attraction because.. well, "people are the sum of their parts."
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Honestly I doubt it matters to 99% of guys who claim they care.

I personally prefer small breasts and small women in general. HOWEVER, if I liked a girl I wouldn't care either way as long as she was at least somewhat fit and healthy.

And don't get me wrong...just because I like em small doesn't mean I'd pass up a D cup if given the opportunity.
Posted 9/6/17 , edited 9/7/17
There is a different between breast and penis though. You are sticking it in somewhere, so size actually matters. You usually aren't sticking a breast anywhere. It's more of a cosmetics for men
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Zenpie wrote:

There is a different between breast and penis though. You are sticking it in somewhere, so size actually matters. You usually aren't sticking a breast anywhere. It's more of a cosmetics for men


Yeah. Size does matter for a penis to a certain extent. If you're 5+ inches though ur good. If you're 7+ inches ur black.
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Posted 9/7/17 , edited 9/7/17

Zenpie wrote:

There is a different between breast and penis though. You are sticking it in somewhere, so size actually matters. You usually aren't sticking a breast anywhere. It's more of a cosmetics for men.


Oh my Zenpie, how uninitiated you are in sexual matters.
Posted 9/7/17 , edited 9/7/17
I honestly can't come up with an image of an ideal woman
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If you where single, and there was a girl was walking your way, and she was physically fit meaning flat stomach and toned arms and legs, but her height wasn't what you hoped for and her hair was too short or you didn't like the color and her face was too plain, and when she got close enough, you didn't care for her perfume, would you still think "Close Enough" and smile at her, or put a look of horror on your face and turn away? If you think the bar should be different or you want to add qualifiers please go ahead and say that.



Why would you do this to anyone simply "walking your way?"

Unless they're a zombie
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I've been wondering if it's September 8th or September 10th, man I am getting emotional
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