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Post Reply StepSiblings: Does It Count As Incest (Anime)
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Posted 9/7/17 , edited 9/8/17

XxxEmpressxxX wrote:

Technically it is not incest. coz you are not blood relatives.


Humans don't have the ability to determine blood relations (without technology,) so in practice what matters is whether you were treated as a relation from childhood. We (mostly) instinctively avoid relationships with those (not counting abuse, which is a different dynamic) and it mostly works as a proxy.

So, yeah, Eromanga Sensei actually made sense on that level, since they barely knew each other, while the technically superior Oreimo is less believable (at least on that front.)
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Posted 9/7/17 , edited 9/8/17

MadeDragon wrote:


XxxEmpressxxX wrote:

Technically it is not incest. coz you are not blood relatives.


Humans don't have the ability to determine blood relations (without technology,) so in practice what matters is whether you were treated as a relation from childhood. We (mostly) instinctively avoid relationships with those (not counting abuse, which is a different dynamic) and it mostly works as a proxy.

So, yeah, Eromanga Sensei actually made sense on that level, since they barely knew each other, while the technically superior Oreimo is less believable (at least on that front.)




Imagine, having lived with your childhood friend for many years, whose rooms are located across the hall. Others tease you about what a cute girl she is, but alas, you feel no attraction.

"She is my sister you know"

"But you guys are not blood related, right?"

"I heard your parents were out of the country. Imagine, spending all night so close to her room. Amazing"

"You guys don't understand, you siscons"

That is, until one night when you decide to head for your shower a bit early, and upon entering the bath, you come across your stepsister undressing, her body toned and perfect, her naked figure being bared on your intrusion. You stare for a moment, before she kicks you out. You go to your room, and feel confused.

"But she is my sister" you mutter, all the while, unknown to you, your stepsister sits in the bath, blushing but with no discernible reason.

"Why did he stare...I am his sister, we are not suppose to be..."


I just stick to this quote from the threadsetter.

Any way the question is., they are stepsiblings is it incest? Lets just stay on this topic.

by definition
Noun. (plural step-siblings) The offspring of one's stepfather or stepmother who is not the offspring of one's mother and is not the offspring of one's father. The stepchild of one's father or mother which is not one's half-sibling.

But it if okay if you wanted to make the topic more complicated that it is. Yes, there is no proof that they are not blood related. Like you said it can only be tested by technology.

But logically speaking the thread setter says Step sibling and not half siblings.

So, I like to stay to my OPINION that they are not blood related.

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If both siblings are under 10 and grow up together then I would consider it incest.

In the case of Sagiri and Masamune I dont consider it incest because not only have they known each other physically for less than a year but both parents are dead which nullifies the marriage. Sagiri could easily have her last name changed back so people dont feel weird about it.

Now for Yuzu and Mei. Both are the same age with Yuzu being just a few months older. Their relationship started moving the first night they actually met. They are both strangers to each other so I could hardly call that incest.
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Posted 9/8/17 , edited 9/8/17

tkayt wrote:

I've got step siblings. The step sisters are blood relations since we share the same father. We were told about them from very young so I thought of them as mysterious sisters. The step brother ( I don't describe him as that usually, he was kept secret) has totally different parents and is just related through parents' marriage. All of them are much older than my common sibling group. We didn't grow up knowing them.


When you share one biological parent, but not the other, that is half-siblings rather than step-siblings. Step-siblings is when you are siblings by marriage.
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Posted 9/8/17 , edited 9/8/17
Hypothetical. Say your wife's mother and your father hit it off after meeting each other through you and your wife, and get married.

Technically you are now your wife's step brother.

Looking at wikipedia, many state laws prohibit sexual relationships between stepparent and step child, but there seems to be only provisions for siblings of whole or half-blood.

So probably in most places, legally it isn't incest. Scientifically it isn't either.

As someone else pointed out, how weird it looks also depends on how long you were raised as step siblings. Then again, some children who aren't even step siblings, are such close friends or raised closely together from such an early age, that their relationship may not be much different than step-siblings.
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Posted 9/8/17 , edited 9/8/17
Hey, I ship a twincest pairing, so I don't have a problem with it. (the ones in my icon).

I... think it's more okay as long as their the same sex, because no risk of babies...but het incest is still okay as long as birth control is used...

(I have no family whatsoever, so, yeah... I just see L and R as two cute characters who would look cute cuddling. L totally has those feelings for R in the story, though. ... I think R just like cuddles.)
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Posted 9/8/17 , edited 9/8/17

ishe5555 wrote:


tkayt wrote:

I've got step siblings. The step sisters are blood relations since we share the same father. We were told about them from very young so I thought of them as mysterious sisters. The step brother ( I don't describe him as that usually, he was kept secret) has totally different parents and is just related through parents' marriage. All of them are much older than my common sibling group. We didn't grow up knowing them.


When you share one biological parent, but not the other, that is half-siblings rather than step-siblings. Step-siblings is when you are siblings by marriage.


I tend to use both terms interchangeably.
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Posted 9/8/17 , edited 9/9/17
There is no right or wrong in this case except what the 2 step siblings feel about it on their own.

Legally they are not related by blood so it does not fall under that definition.
Psychologically it would depend on the individuals and under what factors are involved in the marriage of the parents: Did the parents marry when they were young, or in their teens? When the parents married, did they both live under the same roof or had the oldest already moved out on their own? If they were young and lived in the same house, did they develop a more normal brother/sister relationship or were they cold towards each other?

Personally I can identify with these questions as my own parents were divoriced and my father remarried when I was 7. I have a full blood sister, 3 step-sisters and a half sister from my mothers side. I have a normal relationship with my sister, a colder relationship with my step-sisters as I never accepted their mother as my own in any way and I have no relationship with my half-sister. So honestly if some weird thing happened between me and any of my 3 step-sisters I wouldn't feel it was incest in the slightest as I never considered them to be part of my family in the first place.
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Posted 9/9/17 , edited 9/9/17
As someone who has siblings whole, half, step, and adopted acquired at different stages through life, it comes down to how I feel and a sense of family. I have step-siblings that I got as an adult, so I while we are friendly and get along there isn't much of a sibling relationship. However my adoptive sibling that I got as teen, from the moment we met felt like siblings, and while some other people did wonder if there might be more going on once in a while as we were close, I always just found it downright weird as we just didn't feel that way about each other.

So I can conceive of both step- and adoptive sibling relationships in which it would be ok within the context and setting of the story for the characters to develop a relationship and not seem like pseudo incest, but I can also see when it isn't. When for whatever reason the reader might expect there to already exist an emotional sibling bond. Because when it comes to family, who you think of as sister or father etc. emotion in the end determines a whole lot more than blood.
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Posted 9/9/17 , edited 9/9/17

Dissimilate wrote:

There is no right or wrong in this case except what the 2 step siblings feel about it on their own.


This.

But it's objectively a terrible idea, because what if you break up? It's bad enough having to go to school with the person who broke your heart, but imagine having to LIVE with them. No matter how you slice it, you're either in that situation yourself, or you're putting your sibling into it. And statistically, while we all believe this love is the one love, that's only true a tiny minority of the time.

It just seems much smarter not to ever open this can of worms.
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Posted 9/9/17 , edited 9/9/17
If two people marry and have kids, but then one of those people's dads and one of their mum's later get together and marry, thus making the original people step siblings, would that be incest, even if in a kind of retrospective sense? I think when it comes to step siblings it isn't really incest, but rather just a psychological barrier, than a biological one.
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Incest as a concept only exists because offspring of close relations have a high error rate in the genetic sequences (exhibit A, royal families who kept the bloodline close) so it's bad for the species. The cultural and societal responses are side effects of an evolutionary adaptation.

So, if it's not a close blood relative then it's not incest.

And actual incest is only a problem if you have children, which is a default setting in sex when you're an early evolving organism, but in the modern world with multiple methods of birth control that still allow a full sexual experience the act of incest isn't even a problem from a species point of view.

So really PV you've got two thumbs up from Mother Nature. If your sister is on the pill, you're good to go and if she's not, bring condoms.

Knowledge is power. Now go make your sister smile.
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I already think its really sad & pathetic how people be sleeping with the same person they know (pretty common in small towns, or ppl who like to date coworkers). So this pretty much takes it to a whole other level of desperation.

My point is there’s plenty of fish in the sea... if you think for even a second about banging a relative or your buddy’s ex etc., then it might be time to take a good look at yourself or consider moving to another city, state, or country. It’s nothing natural, healthy, or to be proud of - quite the opposite.
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Posted 9/9/17 , edited 9/10/17
It's only wrong if you don't say "no incest", sorta like "no homo." The lack of blood relation lets you drop the no incest rule, but its still morally wrong to not say no incest if you were raised together for more than 7 years. 6 and a half and you can go at it without the words! If you've got the sex drive, especially the Joestar sex drive, theres no stoppin ya in the first place, so when the technicalities are on your side its all good.

Go get your step-sisters (or someone else if you say "no incest") , you players ;)
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