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What do YOU really think of the alt right?
Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


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and when they are at Universities or other public forums they allow white people to comply with discrimination laws.


Only after stories about it garnered international attention and brought unwanted focus on said universities, and even then that isn't always the case. Were you asleep during all the shit going down at Evergreen a few months ago when "PoC" wanted to force white students to not attend classes for a day with threats of violence?


When you open a store the expectation is you're open to everyone. Also we've had anti-discrimination laws on the books for awhile cause certain groups where put at a disadvantage when people where allowed to discriminate.


That doesn't answer the question. Why would a gay couple want to possibly get a loogie cake?


Self segregation is a lot different than forced segregation. People self segregate all the time.


And when white people do it it gets called racist white flight. When white people move in to minority neighborhoods its called racist gentrification.
When minorities do it its called "safe spaces" and "diversity".




Usually cause some outfit like Fox or the Daily Caller has run some sensational piece on it and they have to issue a statement. No I am aware of Evergreen. My understanding was they asked white students and faculty to "take a day of absence", a professor objected in a letter and didn't participate some time later a group of students started the trouble over his non-participation and letter. Not everyone is reasonable, especially it seems on college campuses


You may as well ask why would a person send food back at a restaurant when the chef might spit on it or drop it on the floor. You expect some degree of professionalism and that they will abide by the law.


In both cases I suspect it has to do with whites earning more on average than other racial groups other than asians. When whites flee minorities the taxes that support the area decrease etc. Likewise when whites move into a minority area housing prices etc can increase and drive poorer minorities out. Then again I am guessing.
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It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Couldn't agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.


>> look Kefkapwnsall has created another account? something similar
Posted 9/16/17 , edited 9/16/17

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prh99 wrote:


It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Couldn't agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.


>> look Kefkapwnsall has created another account? something similar


I don't know who that is. I've only used this name and nooneinparticular on this forum.

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prh99 wrote:


May201m wrote:


prh99 wrote:


It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Couldn't agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.


>> look Kefkapwnsall has created another account? something similar


I don't know who that is. I've only used this name and nooneinparticular on this forum.



> Let me take a screen shot very similar Kefkapwnsall always had to post in Lgbtq. threads last i had heard they left? I just saw your text and profile and thought very similar ok no hard feelings but there is something similar.


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The justification i spoke of was in regards to the concerns of the left or non "alt right". These concerns are in regards to the actual existence of an alt right. Your post doesn't explicitly say this, but it implies that you believe these concerns hold no weight and you dismiss their existence and thus the existence of the alt right is reduced to a mere misunderstanding (originating in the left) of a bunch of pepe memes ? You clearly state that you don't even believe in the existence of the alt right and your reasoning behind that (a misunderstanding of memes) is the reason I'm in disbelief.


Ah! Okay, I understand now. Yes, that's pretty much what I think. The only thing I might add is that the actual, serious, non-memeing alt-right is maybe made up of 50,000 people, max. So they do exist, there are just so few of them they don't matter very much.
Since you think the alt-right is a reason for concern, what leads you to believe this? And what are your concerns?


I'm glad we can both agree the non meming side exists. I was almost believing you only thought it was just memes for a second.

I agree that they may not be large in number but extreme actions speak really loud no matter how many are behind the message. And it is these very extreme actions that are my reason for concern. Be it domestic terrorism in the form of violence erupting out of those mask wearing bitches ANTIFA, or violent events like what occurred in Charlottesville with white supremacist hood wearing hooligans.

My concerns is that the more these groups incite violence the more common these types of events can become. And if we look back to history(especially our civil war) we can see the warning signs telling us that these types f events can spiral out of control . That is what leads me to believe the alt right is of concern however small that concern may be now. That's not to excuse the left either both sides are responsible.
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May201m wrote:


prh99 wrote:


May201m wrote:


prh99 wrote:


It's funny groups that want businesses to be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people and keep trans people out the military and the restrooms of the gender they identify with get so butt hurt when people do the same to them. Some even threw fit cause Vanity Fair didn't include the First Lady in there best dressed list.

Couldn't agree more, stores should just make money.

As for attacking, some would say it's just calling a spade a spade.


>> look Kefkapwnsall has created another account? something similar


I don't know who that is. I've only used this name and nooneinparticular on this forum.



> Let me take a screen shot very similar Kefkapwnsall always had to post in Lgbtq. threads last i had heard they left? I just saw your text and profile and thought very similar ok no hard feelings but there is something similar.



Please dont invoke he who must not be gendered.

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prh99 wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

prh99 wrote:
and when they are at Universities or other public forums they allow white people to comply with discrimination laws.


When you open a store the expectation is you're open to everyone. Also we've had anti-discrimination laws on the books for awhile cause certain groups where put at a disadvantage when people where allowed to discriminate.


Self segregation is a lot different than forced segregation. People self segregate all the time.

And when white people do it it gets called racist white flight. When white people move in to minority neighborhoods its called racist gentrification.
When minorities do it its called "safe spaces" and "diversity".


Usually cause some outfit like Fox or the Daily Caller has run some sensational piece on it and they have to issue a statement. No I am aware of Evergreen. My understanding was they asked white students and faculty to "take a day of absence", a professor objected in a letter and didn't participate some time later a group of students started the trouble over his non-participation and letter. Not everyone is reasonable, especially it seems on college campuses
You may as well ask why would a person send food back at a restaurant when the chef might spit on it or drop it on the floor. You expect some degree of professionalism and that they will abide by the law.
In both cases I suspect it has to do with whites earning more on average than other racial groups other than asians. When whites flee minorities the taxes that support the area decrease etc. Likewise when whites move into a minority area housing prices etc can increase and drive poorer minorities out. Then again I am guessing.


As as businesses go this is a a mixed bag. If I open a Christian book store I am probably not going to be ok with satanists buying my books so they can burn them later. If I open a butcher shop I would not sell to a customer I know intends to take the pork products and place them at an Islamic place of worship. Yes your open to business for all but I personally dont believe this is a blanket clause. If your a baker who has no issue selling products to LGBTQ(seems like its getting to be alphabet soup lol) but only refuse a wedding cake I dont really see the issue. I would argue this iisnt much different from letting kids buy stuff from a convenience store but not selling them condoms,alcohol, or tobacco products. You should be able to be open for business but perhaps limit some services depending on the customer.
You are correct by nature humans tend to cluster with similar or like minded people. However that doesnt mean thats acceptable. For me the difference is if your (insert class/race) and you self segregate then your arguments down the road about being discriminated against or forced to segregate dont really hold alot of merit. Isolating yourself only fosters ill will and more isolation.
This is an interesting point. I have seen a variety of neighborhoods in places I have been isolate themselves by nationality and yet it only seems to be the caucasion community that gets a hard time for it. This is a bit of a oxymoron, though to be fair I dont think any of these groups should be allowed to isolate their entire communities. This is the US if I want to live in a majority black, white, asian, latino community then I should be able to.
As far as Evergreen college goes(I live less then an hour away)... that college is a train wreck. Only the Alt-left dont think that college isnt a timebomb ready to go off. To correct your statement its been reported many times the school has asked white students and staff to not come to school so the "students of color" could have a day where they were not being repressed by the white students. The question has been asked what oppression has taken place, while the answer is usually something about "white privilege" being oppressive. other words their is no valid reason... they just dont want white people on campus. That said the college has lost many legal battles over its extreme left views yet still marches on with its conduct. However as of the last 5 years their attendance and applications have plummeted to now they are considering closing in the next 5-10 years.Evergreen college is alt left to the extreme. they actually hired almost a dozen grief councilors after President trump was elected to stem student suicide. What kind of college thinks its ok to foster bitterness and resentment when the president of the country doesn't fit their ideals.
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