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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 9/30/17

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Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


C'mon, couldn't our heroic rescue workers put on another great show like they gave in Texas?


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If the people in Puerto Rico were white, would more of an effort be made to get resources to the island?


Although if Puerto Rico was white, we wouldn't have been trying to grab it in the Spanish-American War, so that's a bit academic...


They are still in Texas.... And Florida.... And now they need to get to Puerto Rico which has been devastated and their ports messed up. Learn how logistics work.
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 9/30/17

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Considering the delay and apathy Trump shows towards giving even the most simple and basic response to the Puerto Rico crisis especially when compared to the hurricanes in Flroida and Texas, I would say yes. Of course, that's only speculation, but I doubt even the most zealous Trump supprpter will deny the simple fact that he is not treating them with the same urgency as people on the mainland. These are still American taxpayers and they'r ein a situation much worse than Florida, so why does Florida get the preferrential treatment?


Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


Oh yeah, that explains why Trump was more preoccupied with acknowledging kneeling athletes than a humanitarian crisis. Thanks for clearing that up.


So having the Pentagon help with the crisis is being preoccupied? It takes 2 minutes to tweet. Hardly a distraction. You need to get your TDS looked at, its really bad.


My what?

Dude, the guy didn't even mention Puerto Rico for the longest time and only now has done the same thing he did much earlier for Florida and Texas. As I've said numerous times already, there was no reason for him to wait a week to waive the Jones Act for Puerto Rico. Do you have an argument against that that's more compelling that just handwaving and insults?
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The aid is in the shipping port, but the trucks need drivers, fuel and ways to unload them. I am also guessing that the roads are also damaged.
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eldos1 wrote:

The aid is in the shipping port, but the trucks need drivers, fuel and ways to unload them. I am also guessing that the roads are also damaged.


shhh go away, common sense isn't allowed here
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eldos1 wrote:

The aid is in the shipping port, but the trucks need drivers, fuel and ways to unload them. I am also guessing that the roads are also damaged.


shhh go away, common sense isn't allowed here


You haven't answered my question, why would Trump not be able to waive the Jones Act when he did so immediately for the other affected areas? Are you still maintaining that the hurricanes somehow physically stopped him from it? Is that your definition of common sense?
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 9/30/17

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If the people in Puerto Rico were white, would more of an effort be made to get resources to the island?

I personally don't see what the set back is. We are America the great. We have the biggest military in the world. Food and water and can be dropped into out of the way places. if we can get supplies to soldiers when we 're at war in remote areas, then we can get supplies and resources to the people in Puerto Rico.


No. Now if it's citizens could vote in presidential elections, that'd be a different story.
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 10/3/17

octorockandroll wrote:


redokami wrote:


eldos1 wrote:

The aid is in the shipping port, but the trucks need drivers, fuel and ways to unload them. I am also guessing that the roads are also damaged.


shhh go away, common sense isn't allowed here


You haven't answered my question, why would Trump not be able to waive the Jones Act when he did so immediately for the other affected areas? Are you still maintaining that the hurricanes somehow physically stopped him from it? Is that your definition of common sense?


we already explained it to you and your just not willing to listen.
'I don't feel like having to explain it again wen you could just go back and read and look at what been said already.
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 10/11/17

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


redokami wrote:


eldos1 wrote:

The aid is in the shipping port, but the trucks need drivers, fuel and ways to unload them. I am also guessing that the roads are also damaged.


shhh go away, common sense isn't allowed here


You haven't answered my question, why would Trump not be able to waive the Jones Act when he did so immediately for the other affected areas? Are you still maintaining that the hurricanes somehow physically stopped him from it? Is that your definition of common sense?


we already explained it to you and your just not willing to listen.
'I don't feel like having to explain it again wen you could just go back and read and look at what been said already.


No, none of you little fanboys ever explained why Trump waiting much longer to waive the act for Puerto Rico as opposed to Florida and Texas is okay.

Try again
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 10/3/17

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Rujikin wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Considering the delay and apathy Trump shows towards giving even the most simple and basic response to the Puerto Rico crisis especially when compared to the hurricanes in Flroida and Texas, I would say yes. Of course, that's only speculation, but I doubt even the most zealous Trump supprpter will deny the simple fact that he is not treating them with the same urgency as people on the mainland. These are still American taxpayers and they'r ein a situation much worse than Florida, so why does Florida get the preferrential treatment?


Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


Oh yeah, that explains why Trump was more preoccupied with acknowledging kneeling athletes than a humanitarian crisis. Thanks for clearing that up.


So having the Pentagon help with the crisis is being preoccupied? It takes 2 minutes to tweet. Hardly a distraction. You need to get your TDS looked at, its really bad.


My what?

Dude, the guy didn't even mention Puerto Rico for the longest time and only now has done the same thing he did much earlier for Florida and Texas. As I've said numerous times already, there was no reason for him to wait a week to waive the Jones Act for Puerto Rico. Do you have an argument against that that's more compelling that just handwaving and insults?


Do you have an argument that isn't just igross assumptions and whataboutisms? Let's see... There was another hurricane right after Irma coming, Jose. Which made it very unsafe for ships at sea and may have been sucidial to charge into.

Someone probably had to tell Trump that the Jones act was a thing. I find it odd that we have a law that can prevent humanitarian efforts on the books.
Posted 9/28/17 , edited 10/3/17
This is getting ridiculous. Correlating poor decisions to racial bias for every little thing someone you dislike does reflects poorly on you.
Also the percentage of Puerto Ricans who self identify as "white" is 75.8%.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Puerto_Ricans.

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Someone probably had to tell Trump that the Jones act was a thing. I find it odd that we have a law that can prevent humanitarian efforts on the books.


Tfw your defense of your politician is that he likely doesn't know legislation.

Also, the reason Trump had to delay in waiving the Jones act for Puerto Rico was because he didn't know it existed at the time? Even though the entire crux of the argument stating that this points to bias was that he had previously waived the exact same act for Texas and Florida beforehand and without such an extreme waiting period?

Well, makes sense to me.
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 10/3/17

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This is getting ridiculous. Correlating poor decisions to racial bias for every little thing someone you dislike does reflects poorly on you.
Also the percentage of Puerto Ricans who self identify as "white" is 75.8%.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Puerto_Ricans.



well that beats this argument


and I have to agree, its getting out of hand, someone u don't like does something u don't agree with? RACIST
Posted 9/28/17 , edited 9/30/17

redokami wrote:


GrandMasterTime wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. Correlating poor decisions to racial bias for every little thing someone you dislike does reflects poorly on you.
Also the percentage of Puerto Ricans who self identify as "white" is 75.8%.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Puerto_Ricans.



well that beats this argument


and I have to agree, its getting out of hand, someone u don't like does something u don't agree with? RACIST


I would of been completely fine with the thread if it was just an honest critique of Donald Trump's response as the president of USA but that didn't happen.
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 9/30/17

Ejanss wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Besides our services being overwhelmed with 2 massive hurricanes? Plus Florida would normally be the supply base of operations for Puerto Rico and well... It got hit with a Hurricane.


C'mon, couldn't our heroic rescue workers put on another great show like they gave in Texas?


brookline wrote:

If the people in Puerto Rico were white, would more of an effort be made to get resources to the island?


Although if Puerto Rico was white, we wouldn't have been trying to grab it in the Spanish-American War, so that's a bit academic...


Actually we grabbed it because it is a beautiful place occupied by non whites. like the US mainland. we just didn't not give the the same respect we give European countries. we are trying to grab Germany, Spain, nor England nor trying to start a war among their people. if they needed are help we'd be over there in no time.
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Posted 9/28/17 , edited 10/3/17

octorockandroll wrote:

Tfw your defense of your politician is that he likely doesn't know legislation.

Also, the reason Trump had to delay in waiving the Jones act for Puerto Rico was because he didn't know it existed at the time? Even though the entire crux of the argument stating that this points to bias was that he had previously waived the exact same act for Texas and Florida beforehand and without such an extreme waiting period?

Well, makes sense to me.

Frankly, the Jones act should be automatically waived whenever the origin (of refugees) or destination (for aid) is in a declared state of emergency. It's inefficient to require the sitting president to remember and/or decide whether to waive it on a case-by-case basis for emergencies in the first place.

Maybe this will encourage congress to get off their collective behinds and amend the act.. but I doubt it. Pretty sure they're not even capable of tying their shoes at this point.
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