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Less individualistic more focused on the group whilst maintaining support for those who need it.
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I don't believe anything I've said contradicts or challenges your stance. But I assume you took what I said to mean that I think everyone should immediately have exactly the same amount of everything, which is not what I said. Hard work should be rewarded, but no one should starve when we easily have the resources to feed them. Anyone who works a full work week deserves to have a roof over their head, safe food and water to live on, and access to medicine when they're sick. And in a perfect world, everyone would be able to get a job, but that's not our world today and we as a community should not find that acceptable, especially if we claim to be a true meritocracy. So to answer your question, absolutely not. Someone who does not put a lot of effort into their work should not have the same pay grade as a doctor who has pledged themselves and dedicated huge chunks of their lives to helping others, but neither should anyone work for 40 hours per day and still worry about their most basic necessities; and most chains for these larger companies who employ people flipping burgers can absolutely afford to pay people living wages, they just don't. Some people might argue that it's not smart for them to pay living wages but honestly, I just simply don't believe that when their CEOs pay is increasing at ridiculous rates, it just smells like excuse. Flipping burgers might not be the most ambitious or intellectually stimulating work around, but it's still time and work, and people come home from it tired like anyone else.

I should have prefaced it earlier but I'll say here I'm not an economist. I'm a weeb whose obsessed with yuri and magical girls. But I'm aware that things are not that simple, and execution of the ideals I'm talking about is usually much more difficult. But a wise man once said "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler.". From what research I've seen over my short life, we have the resources necessary to provide our populations with basic necessities, and so I believe it's morally imperative we strive to give people access to such things, and I believe access to food, water, shelter, and medicine are the most basic dignities afforded to every human on the planet, along with a voice in a healthy democracy. And heavens have mercy if we forget that.

The question of how we get there, well, if I knew the answer to that I would be a very wise and powerful woman.


I think I did misinterpreter what you said.

Does someone who does not care to work or contribute in any way deserve to be fed?

As a CEO you can decide between hiring more workers or building yourself more machines. If wages rise too much then its better to replace people with machines and put those people out of work. The CEO's job is to make money for the company not make sure people are employed.

I'm in business myself so I know a bit behind the thought process. I don't want to write an essay but to sum up how CEO's think:

If cost of human labor < cost of machine labor then hire humans
If cost of machine labor < cost of human labor then build more machines

It's as simple as that. If a CEO will not do it they will be replaced with one that will.
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I'd say: all people get good just unbiased education, free rights without abuse, no hunger, no war, no obesity, nothing that'd fall under a sin, disobeying God's commandments, leaders will still exist but in peace and they wouldn't do much other than economic stuff, everything is perfect. The embodiment of a Christian heaven but on earth. But this is stupid and unachievable due to humans and our tendency to fall into evil. It's naive to put it bluntly
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Less individualistic more focused on the group whilst maintaining support for those who need it.


I was gonna ask what's wrong with individualism, but the mods don't like me questioning you. So never mind.
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World Peace will come during the Millennial reign of Christ according to the bible



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Ryulightorb wrote:

Less individualistic more focused on the group whilst maintaining support for those who need it.


I was gonna ask what's wrong with individualism, but the mods don't like me questioning you. So never mind.


Nothing is wrong with it but it's better to focus on the group imo.
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World peace is something unachievable by humans. As long as there are differences in beliefs (not necessarily religious), passions, and desires, there will be conflict. As long as there are nations, there will be conflict between them. If there was only one nation, ruled by humans, it would necessarily be an oppressive and brutal regime, because no other type would be able to prevent it from quickly fragmenting.


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Less individualistic more focused on the group whilst maintaining support for those who need it.


I would say that the world needs to be more individualistic rather than less. But, you seem to see individualism is selfishness. Individualism is focus on the individual as the basic unit of society, while collectivism is focus on the group as the basic unit of society. Part of individualism is realizing that those around you have the same right to life and liberty as you do, no matter what "groups" they are part of. Facism and communism are both collectivist ideologies. Racism is typically born out of collectivist thinking.


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I was gonna ask what's wrong with individualism, but the mods don't like me questioning you. So never mind.


I've questioned and disagreed with Ryulightorb many times and never had an issue with any mods. If you've had an issue with mods after doing so, then it is probably the way you questioned him being against forum rules.
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People working together for renewable energy and food for the entire planet. World wide universal health care. Mandatory high level education for every world citizen. Intuitive, free mental health care and drug rehabilitation for people who need it. If you don't think we have the money, resources or technology to do that, you don't know sh*t. It's all about state of mind and people who are afraid to give. most jobs are being replaced by automation and society will have to change accordingly.
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Idealistic at best, frighteningly "utopian" at worst.
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If we all just became Buddhist, sat down, meditated, and spread love and good vibes the world would be at piece.

If everyone just accepted Lord Jesus Christ as their savior the would would be at piece.


If we all just accepted science as the truth it is and could view the world through it's objective lense the would would be at piece.

If we all just gave our power away to someone or something that is greater than ourselves world piece will be achievable.

Man Im thirsty for some Kool-aid
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an American professional basketball coach and former player. He is currently the player development coach for the South Bay Lakers of the NBA G League. He was known as Ron Artest before legally changing his name in September 2011.
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Peace doesn't exist.

It is in the nature of man to destroy himself. For as long as there have been humans, there has been war. For as long as humans continue to exist, there will be war. There will always be different groups of humans fighting against each other for whatever reason.

Keep this in mind the next time someone tells you that their particular group advocates for peace. They are only lying to themselves.
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