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Posted 10/12/17 , edited 10/12/17

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Jeez, why did the main character kiss her? He has already lived through the game, and knows that the punishments are nearly instantaneous, if not a few seconds.

I also found the expressions on the people beating the main character to be odd, with hints of overt sadism than paranoia, as if they are beating him up not because he is suspected to be the culprit, but that he angers them for some past misdeed. Seriously? Of course, this all boils down to how much lee way we will give to people making irrational decisions in horror, with my standards being a bit higher.



Put it like this PV if you lived through the horror would you try to survive again or just die and not have to go through the horror?
The first game broke him so much he likely didn't want to live if another game started.

Alot of the irrational decisions make sense due to how on edge they are about it all.


That doesn't explain anything. Suicide was an option throughout those 24 hours, and what should have alerted him to the time was that punishments did not start yet, which should alert him to check his phone, or perform any other act.

Even then, smiling over kicking him isn't a sign of paranoia, or worrying, but simply enjoying kicking a person, despite the situation there in. I barely enjoyed my morning cup of Joe when my sisters tore apart my ego, how would I fare to be happy if my body itself was in such a danger?

It seems they are trying to push a "Asshole victim fodder" to fulfill the gore quota.
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where do you get a rope that readily and that type of building the ceiling is very unlikely 12-15 feet in which case how did he attach the rope?
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Posted 10/12/17 , edited 10/12/17

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Ryulightorb wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Jeez, why did the main character kiss her? He has already lived through the game, and knows that the punishments are nearly instantaneous, if not a few seconds.

I also found the expressions on the people beating the main character to be odd, with hints of overt sadism than paranoia, as if they are beating him up not because he is suspected to be the culprit, but that he angers them for some past misdeed. Seriously? Of course, this all boils down to how much lee way we will give to people making irrational decisions in horror, with my standards being a bit higher.



Put it like this PV if you lived through the horror would you try to survive again or just die and not have to go through the horror?
The first game broke him so much he likely didn't want to live if another game started.

Alot of the irrational decisions make sense due to how on edge they are about it all.


That doesn't explain anything. Suicide was an option throughout those 24 hours, and what should have alerted him to the time was that punishments did not start yet, which should alert him to check his phone, or perform any other act.

Even then, smiling over kicking him isn't a sign of paranoia, or worrying, but simply enjoying kicking a person, despite the situation there in. I barely enjoyed my morning cup of Joe when my sisters tore apart my ego, how would I fare to be happy if my body itself was in such a danger?

It seems they are trying to push a "Asshole victim fodder" to fulfill the gore quota.



First part is true but not a big deal but you have never smiled when in danger or even when being beaten up or attacked with your life at risk?
Because if does happen can personally attest to it people act weird when in danger and under pressure they become irrational and sometimes ballsy since they think less.

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where do you get a rope that readily and that type of building the ceiling is very unlikely 12-15 feet in which case how did he attach the rope?


Asking the real questions though I'm assuming if the king can magically kill someone he can poof a rope out of nowhere
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AnimeKami wrote:

also

where do you get a rope that readily and that type of building the ceiling is very unlikely 12-15 feet in which case how did he attach the rope?


Asking the real questions though I'm assuming if the king can magically kill someone he can poof a rope out of nowhere


Lies!

Slanderous Lies!

How dare you speak (non)sense about this anime.
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sigh, this anime is a rotten mess.

That scene near the end where insane bitch does insane shit in front of entire class then somehow is able to still convince them that shes sane despite her completely audible voice (hell; her friend even asks whats come over her in the scene prior when she is stripping down to fuck the one guy right in front of the entire class). The entire class watched her strip, I doubt they somehow didn't notice her walk away with the MC and yet when she starts pretending that he did something rapish to her, they run over like they didn't just watch her walk away with him. And then of course there is the obligatory scene where they beat the shit out of him at the end like last episode.
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sigh, this anime is a rotten mess.

That scene near the end where insane bitch does insane shit in front of entire class then somehow is able to still convince them that shes sane despite her completely audible voice (hell; her friend even asks whats come over her in the scene prior when she is stripping down to fuck the one guy right in front of the entire class). The entire class watched her strip, I doubt they somehow didn't notice her walk away with the MC and yet when she starts pretending that he did something rapish to her, they run over like they didn't just watch her walk away with him. And then of course there is the obligatory scene where they beat the shit out of him at the end like last episode.


I just don't understand why there is so much media in Japan revolving around having High School kids die horrible deaths and kill each other. It ceased being edgy about 15 years ago.
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Posted 10/12/17 , edited 10/12/17

Ryulightorb wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Jeez, why did the main character kiss her? He has already lived through the game, and knows that the punishments are nearly instantaneous, if not a few seconds.

I also found the expressions on the people beating the main character to be odd, with hints of overt sadism than paranoia, as if they are beating him up not because he is suspected to be the culprit, but that he angers them for some past misdeed. Seriously? Of course, this all boils down to how much lee way we will give to people making irrational decisions in horror, with my standards being a bit higher.



Put it like this PV if you lived through the horror would you try to survive again or just die and not have to go through the horror?
The first game broke him so much he likely didn't want to live if another game started.

Alot of the irrational decisions make sense due to how on edge they are about it all.


That doesn't explain anything. Suicide was an option throughout those 24 hours, and what should have alerted him to the time was that punishments did not start yet, which should alert him to check his phone, or perform any other act.

Even then, smiling over kicking him isn't a sign of paranoia, or worrying, but simply enjoying kicking a person, despite the situation there in. I barely enjoyed my morning cup of Joe when my sisters tore apart my ego, how would I fare to be happy if my body itself was in such a danger?

It seems they are trying to push a "Asshole victim fodder" to fulfill the gore quota.



First part is true but not a big deal but you have never smiled when in danger or even when being beaten up or attacked with your life at risk?
Because if does happen can personally attest to it people act weird when in danger and under pressure they become irrational and sometimes ballsy since they think less.



I call those outliers, mainly because near anyone can act anything to any stimuli. Not only that, this is the main excuse for why we get "crazy" characters. In any case, I separate pragmatic logic, or what the ability to reason out what will most likely work, and emotionally logic, or how I expect certain people to act. This emotional logic, while not being exclusive from anything pragmatic, isn't necessarily the most logical course of action, but it ties into a character and the notion of their consistency, or how we can expect them to behave in this manner or that situation.

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The OP sort of gave away Natsuko's crazy personality but the sudden change still caught me a little off guard. "I don't wanna do this. I want you to be my first instead." A few seconds later: "To hell with this. Let's do it already you worthless POS." I know it won't happen, but it'll be hilarious if the girl who has to text someone "die" sends it to Natsuko.

Most kids in this class are lacking some brain cells. I bet we're going to see a lot of them die from their own stupidity.
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AnimeKami wrote:

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where do you get a rope that readily and that type of building the ceiling is very unlikely 12-15 feet in which case how did he attach the rope?


Wait, you missed the part where he showed off his father's collection of hangmen's nooses?
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Ryulightorb wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

also

where do you get a rope that readily and that type of building the ceiling is very unlikely 12-15 feet in which case how did he attach the rope?


Asking the real questions though I'm assuming if the king can magically kill someone he can poof a rope out of nowhere


At first I was going to make the case that they have to remove ties and shoelaces from suicidal prisoners or hospital patients, etc, but then I realised that there aren't even any obvious rafters in that library for him to hang from, and he really did use a hangman's noose. So that's out, and you got me. My other point, though, is that if you've suspended your disbelief with regards to the King making someone's blood explode in gory bubbles from his body, why is making a rope appear suddenly such a sticking point? If the red Berserk-looking land that they were in back in the old King's Game was real, and not just a fearful recollection in his head, then even more supernatural stuff is going on, and a rope suddenly appearing isn't much next to doing that.

For what it's worth, I'm intrigued, but I have a huge soft spot for Battle Royale-esque stories anyway. It's cheesy in places but I'm looking forward to later episodes where they get more paranoid and have to do increasingly more difficult tasks, if it isn't just gonna be a bunch of flashbacks to the last one.



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*Watches Episode 2 of King's Game

Okay, a couple questions.

1. What was the point of the flashback? It told the current class nothing useful to that point, and seemingly exists solely for the audience's entertainment. This flashback alludes to the previous series, which is a finished series of manga or novels, which makes seems unlikely to be in the sequel's source material. If it is, then why? Wouldn't the viewers already know, seeing as this is a sequel?

2. Why would the boyfriend get so angry and beat the glasses boy for allegedly sleeping with his girlfriend, based on the obedience message? He originally ignored the first message as being an a joke, yet he takes the obedience confirmation message with the utmost seriousness. This is incredibly inconsistent Why believe one but not the other? It could just as easily be a lie.

3. What is the point of having glasses boy hang himself against his will? I thought the King's Game was forcing two or more horrible choices on normal individuals, giving them a choice to obey or disobey. Yet glasses boy seemingly hung himself as if he was mind controlled, which ties into the question I asked above. What is the point if the King is going to subvert choice, and mind control them to obey the command, regardless of their disbelief or decision? Does this happen to anyone else?

He did not want to die, that was for certain, yet he apparently "obeys" it, as the message states.

4. Why won't the MC grow a pair and fuck his "love interest"? Being chaste is fine, and so is turning her down, but watching her get defiled in public view in front of the class just sickens me, despite apparently "caring" for her to initiate the kiss. There is something you can do, asswipe, besides watch her get sexually assault. Go kill yourself, you piece of shit.

5. What is the redhead heroine's point with anything? What is her point of being a psycho? She is suddenly revealed as psycho, and tries to fuck the dude who is commanded to have sex with her in public, after he suddenly forces himself on her. First off, why would anyone try to fuck in front of the entire class, especially attempting to rape another, command or not?

6. When everyone stands back and generally not intervene in the female being raped by the other dude, when she pulls over the main character to talk, before being angered and screaming "Rape" out of sight, why did everyone assume that the main character tried to rape the redheaded heroines, given her bizarre
and noticeably psychotic change in front of everyone, or why did they act here in preventing a rape from main character, but not when it was happening in front of them with Terumaki?

You could say it was because of a command that Terumaki and redhead girl had to have sex, versus the unnecessary contact between MC and redhead, but we know that it does not have to be strictly rape, but can be "consensual". By consensual, I mean at least give her a break, or you know...privacy? Also, may I mention the lack of any criteria about her virginity as well, so why refuse? Even then, she begged for the MC's cock, so you think he will turn her down now, then sexually assault her later just within earshot of everyone?

This just seems like another attempt to have the class beat up the main character.

God, this anime angers me.


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PeripheralVisionary wrote:Why won't the MC grow a pair and fuck the love interest? There is something you can do, asswipe. Go kill yourself.


I don't have answers for your other questions yet, but did nobody ever tell you "Never stick your dick in crazy"?
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Posted 10/12/17 , edited 10/12/17

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:Why won't the MC grow a pair and fuck the love interest? There is something you can do, asswipe. Go kill yourself.


I don't have answers for your other questions yet, but did nobody ever tell you "Never stick your dick in crazy"?


He did not know she was crazy before he refused, and then stood bye and let Terumaki attempt to have his way with her, stating before that "he cannot do anything", despite the redhead heroine's condition being that at least she loses her virginity to him, before engaging in intercourse with the other guy.

What the fuck was the kiss then before, that started this whole fucking mess? Is it a reveal for redhead heroine's involvement in the game, or something? In any case, the King is being a real dick here with time, concerning that the 11 killed barely had any time to complete their commands, being given less than 12 seconds to midnight.
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My other point, though, is that if you've suspended your disbelief with regards to the King making someone's blood explode in gory bubbles from his body, why is making a rope appear suddenly such a sticking point? If the red Berserk-looking land that they were in back in the old King's Game was real, and not just a fearful recollection in his head, then even more supernatural stuff is going on, and a rope suddenly appearing isn't much next to doing that.


Which is what makes the predilection for hanging so very odd. He was going to the kitchen, where there are handy knives. Or he could have been blood eruption 2.0. Why hanging?

Anyway, this is how I thought Shouta's command was going to play out:

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