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Does anyone besides me think anime has really declined in imagination and Number of episodes?
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I'm not sure about that. Thanks to Crunchyroll we are seeing stuff that never made the cut or never would have made the cut to get imported to wherever you live. In that sea of anime there is going to be more junk to see. as for episode numbers 13 and 26 has always been common.
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No, not really. I like anime these days just as much as those from the 80s and 90s. Also, this should be in the anime forum.
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Nope
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Whenever someone says that about anything, it means they're getting hooked on nostalgia.

EDIT: To be nicer, when you feel like you've seen it all before, or things were better when you coincidentally were younger and had less exposure to them, you get bored. Anime on the whole has always had recycled plotlines and meaningless fanservice (though less explicitly, it was for the same reason).

In fact, pretty much every story in existence regardless of medium suffers from this.

Where anime diverges from things like books and movies is there's way more options available for books and movies. I don't know the exact amount but let's say there's like maybe 40-50 new shows a season. Anime goes back to like the 1950s. Books and movies: Basically uncountable. Movies for over a hundred years. Books for thousands.

When you get bored of certain genres of books, you tend to branch off and get more obscure. Anime is limited in raw output, history, and the costs involved versus a book means they have to tread relatively safe roads in order to have mass appeal. The economics keeps new shows within the realm of "things I've seen before."

It will be more enjoyable if you try not to focus on similarities but how different properties put twists on things, how they present character growth, etc.

Honestly 90% of the anime people cite as "the good old days" are fairly flat and have gaping plot holes. The difference is you remember watching them when you were younger and less jaded, and they had more impact. Look for shows from decades before you started watching, most will probably feel as simplistic as children's cartoons are to you today.
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A vast majority of shows end at roughly 13 episodes. If the show sees a lot of commercial success, it's usually followed by a second season of 12-13 episodes. I sort of agree that anime these days is lacking imagination; but, I wouldn't necessarily say that anime is declining. At the end of the day, I'm content with where anime is now. That's just my opinion though.
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In terms of overall satisfaction, yes

declining in a way where I don't want to watch new anime. I am so critical to the point where I cant settle for anything but the best. I have grown tired with having fun with anime, I am not a mindless puppet anymore, I want satisfaction.

They are running out of stories. Everyone is running out of stories Think about it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJhFroA-eo

Watch and preach this, boy.
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Posted 10/12/17 , edited 10/12/17
Not at all.

There are so many shows being produced these days that there is just no way everything is going to be good. Not to mention that those of us outside of Japan are getting to see more and more of them instead of just the few handpicked "best" ones. I'm pretty open to watching almost anything that's good, or just that I enjoy, so I'm usually fairly busy with watching every single season.

As for episode count. While I would love there to be more 2 cour shows, I actually really like the 1 or 2 cour show length. In the vast majority of cases, if you can't tell your story in that length of time then it means you have no real story plan and are just going to be relying on a ton of filler. A show lasting hundreds of episodes usually means the author doesn't know what they're doing.

Now, of course, it may be possible that the specific type of shows that you're into are not being widely created at this point in time but that's nothing to do with the quality of anime overall and more to do with your specific tastes.
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hm. must the start of a new season cause this subject comes up again!
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(to Strider) Yes! That's honestly so true. As a writer and an avid consumer of all kinds of stories, I'm always on the lookout for shows or books that may pique my interest. I feel like, no matter what decade of anime you look at, there's always going to be good shows and bad shows. And let's not forget manga, either.

And I loved what you said about the episode count (though there are rare exceptions for length). I've always found that writers who can tell a good story with less chapters/episodes typically knows what he or she is doing. "Less is more," as the saying goes.
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Yeah! of course I do. The 2010s isn't even my favorite period of time for cartoons/animation (the 1990s is and I know cartoons/animation of this era via experience).
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To me it's just the sameo sameo over and over again. Lots of poorly made remakes as well. But every now and then something good will come out.
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It could get to the point where short form anime takes over everything because they don't want to pay for the production costs. As for the content itself it seems pretty much the same to me. There's always a unique and interesting series that comes out every now and then between all the generic trash which keeps me watching
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When I find an appealing pre-1990 anime with "only" 26 episodes, I rejoice. There are so many with 50 or 100 or more episodes, and they usually get shunted to the bottom of the list because they're so long.

This is from a now deleted section of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias:


While difficult to quantify objectively, a common opinion is that music was better in the past. However, while listeners are exposed to a much greater quantity (and thus, presumably, subjective quality) of contemporary music, only the "best" music from one generation survives to be frequently replayed for the next generation, and this process becomes more selective with each generation. While quality of media is a subjective measure from person to person, popularity results from a population's average evaluation of the merits of the media. The more time that a particular piece of art or literature survives as relevant and popular in the general population, the more reliable the measure of quality becomes, because it must pass evaluations by changing and differing generations. All of the art or literature from the past that was not of sufficient quality is "lost" to time, and becomes hidden or invisible to the contemporary listener, reader, or viewer. The net effect is that, in general, a contemporary listener, reader, or viewer is only exposed to those works of past art that have met the highest standards of several preceding generations, while contemporary works or arts have not yet been similarly vetted and the listener, reader, or viewer will thus be exposed to a much higher percentage of poor or mediocre quality works.
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