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This statement contradicts itself. There aren't any more than two genders. Yes, there are organisms and stuff that are asexual and can reproduce solely on their own. Why? Because they have BOTH the necessary components to do so: male/female parts. There will never be a third gender. People may want to "change" how they associate themselves. But regardless of that fact, they were either born male or female originally. Honestly, how they feel has no bearing on what body parts they had originally. The only difference is that they change to the OTHER gender. Female to male, male to female. Still only two genders.
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Morphalexis wrote:

This statement contradicts itself. There aren't any more than two genders. Yes, there are organisms and stuff that are asexual and can reproduce solely on their own. Why? Because they have BOTH the necessary components to do so: male/female parts. There will never be a third gender. People may want to "change" how they associate themselves. But regardless of that fact, they were either born male or female originally. Honestly, how they feel has no bearing on what body parts they had originally. The only difference is that they change to the OTHER gender. Female to male, male to female. Still only two genders.



You're talking about Animals in need to survive.. :p on the asexual part. As Human race, there is no need for asexual.. two gender is all we need as God intended.
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Morphalexis wrote:

This statement contradicts itself. There aren't any more than two genders. Yes, there are organisms and stuff that are asexual and can reproduce solely on their own. Why? Because they have BOTH the necessary components to do so: male/female parts. There will never be a third gender. People may want to "change" how they associate themselves. But regardless of that fact, they were either born male or female originally. Honestly, how they feel has no bearing on what body parts they had originally. The only difference is that they change to the OTHER gender. Female to male, male to female. Still only two genders.


No, not everyone was born a strict male or female. You have no inclusion of the people born with either both genitalia or some other product that isn't a strict female or male. That's a pre-operation transgender, a natural transgender, a NATURAL NON MALE OR FEMALE. And a lot of those people would like to be one gender, but feel difficulty choosing, and suffer other similar issues that no one really seems to be mentioning.
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I learn more about this in social science and I can say that some misconceptions exist in this thread: gender is not a biological classification but a cultural classification. The third gender include such concept as transexual and homosexual. Sex is the proper term for the biological classification of species by their reproductive role and methods of reproduction. I am not an expert at the evolutionary history of animal sex nor know the exact criteria of sex clasification but I should state my opinions. depending on the definition, there may be a third sex on some species of animals like:
-the non-reproductive workers of eusocial animals (like ants, bees, and mole rats).
-the non-reproductive cells in multicellular organism.
-homosexual animals who would not reproduce themselves but could pass on their genes by assisting the reproduction of their genetic relatives in some way.
-animals that develop abnormal sexual traits due to mutation.

In more theorectical discussion, a species could once had three types of sexes in their evolutionary history even when they need only two sex for reproduction. This speculation is based on a species of earthworm where all individual have a sperm but some may not have an egg. An organism might once lack sexual spealization and each individual have both eggs and sperms. Over time, a mutation might occur and produce a second sex that has only sperm for reproduction. Another mutation might occur to produce a third sex that have only an egg for reporeduction. The original sex with both an egg and a sperm might be driven to extinction due to natural selection to produce the familiar two-sex system in that organism.
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Biologically there's been no apparent need for a third sex, male and female has generally succeeded in passing on variant genetic traits that enable species to survive. Should a third sex offer some biological advantage, you'll probably see it at some point.

Using biology to define societal gender roles is very quickly going to veer off of biological advantage and into what a particular society expects of a defined gender.
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Because God made it that way.
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HateKillingCamels wrote:

Because God made it that way


Pretty much this.

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Thats how the almighty made the world there is no other its just Male and Female.
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Hmm. come think of it they said that Angel have both Gender! =0
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In case anyone is interested in some scientific framework.

The question is, Why two sexes instead of three, or four, or six? Or for that matter, instead of hermaphroditism?

The answer to this question is parasitism as well, but in a very different way. Almost inevitably, it turns out, once you postulate genetic interchange, you end up with one subset of the species becoming parasitic on the other: that is, males vs. females.

This is a broad definition of parasitism (and I hereby lay a curse on anyone who tries to use this in a sociopolitical sense). Females provide eggs, which are energy-intensive; males provide sperm, which are not energy-intensive, but which depend on the energy reserves in an egg to nourish the developing individual.

Here's what happens. You start off with two equal contributors -- both individuals provide an equivalent amount of genetic material and of nutrition to supply development. But there's a tremendous benefit to contributing less than your "share"; cut your costs in half, and you can sire twice as many offspring for the next generation.That's a huge selection advantage to these proto-males.

But it only works so long as there's a large chunk of the population that doesn't do this. If everyone reduces their nutrition component, then none of the new generation will develop. So the population only supports a certain number of proto-males; males only work so long as there's a set of proto-females to complement the nutrition.

Hence, males and females.

Now, why not more than two sexes? Well, that should be more clear now too. What would a third sex be, in the context of providing resources to the next generation? Either female-like (high resources) or male-like (low resources), or somewhere in between? In between offers all the disadvantages of both sexes -- not enough to provide all the requirements (or you're de facto female), so therefore you're de facto male, and then you're pushed all the way to complete male-hood.
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yea i totally agree that God intended for there to be only male and female. My point was that people think there's more to that. In rare cases, some people are born with both organs. As far as I know, they both don't work, and if they do, one is usually chosen over the other. They are still
human beings and somewhere inside there body is a more dominant gene that will make them more male or more female.

When we are born, we ARE a strict male or female. There really is no gray area. At some point in a person's life they either accept what they are or don't. That's where I think transgender comes from. You don't want to identify with what you were born with so you choose to identify with the other. The fact remains whether you go through surgery or not or identify with something else or not, you were at one point a certain gender.

Transgender is not a third gender. You are either male or female. There will always ever be a male or female. For us humans, that's they only way we are able to reproduce.
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1.) Males have a penis. (And XY chromosomes)

2.) Women have a vagina. (And XX chromosomes)

3.) There I just provided what school/parents should have already taught you.
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masked185 wrote:

1.) Males have a penis. (And XY chromosomes)

2.) Women have a vagina. (And XX chromosomes)

3.) There I just provided what school/parents should have already taught you.


Right but there could be a XYZed, or XYY, XXY, XXX, YYY.
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TheZaphod wrote:

Why 2 genders?

DNA has only 2 strands, 1 stand from the male and 1 from the female is all that is needed to create new life.

There is no 3rd gender in nature because it is simply not needed.



And what exactly are you on mate? Plenty of species produce offspring in manners not requiring a binary gender system.
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