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Posted 10/17/17 , edited 10/18/17
The anime industry wins and thus so do we kinda if we overlook people who crocodile tear at not getting access to every anime per season in one place for one fee. CR has grown so much but now we've got Amazon and Netflix flexing muscles so competition has never been so fearce. HiDive is gonna grow too as it's both cheap and is active at taking on dubs, we will see how Sony steers Funimation after take over...

Either way Netflix being so inclusive with majority of their licenses means anime will have NEVER been so accessible to new comers. CR is literally everywhere and on everything for existing fans but Netflix I think our greatest weapon in breaking out of being so niche.
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I was livid when I found out CR botched and let netflix have Violet Evergarden.... now I will have to buy a subscription because thats a must see show. the artwork promises to be amazing... who needs plot of character development when your eyes are melting from the artwork!!!!
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Posted 10/18/17 , edited 10/18/17
I'd be grateful if I can get a third season for "Knights of Sidonia" out of this deal. I ended up really liking that one.

I'm generally hopeful about this deal, especially if it leads to Netflix actually putting money into getting the Japanese to do more sequels and follow-ups. Nothing is more irritating than watching an anime, loving it, then finding out it's only a single 10-13 episodes and there are ZERO plans to ever make more because it was just a one shot advertising ploy to sell more copies of the light novels that AREN'T AVAILABLE OVER HERE!"

I'm a fan of "Sword Art Online" but can't some other light novel series get an anime franchise? Come on, Netflix! You've got the cash and we've got the eyeballs. Help produce the anime and slowly push the Japanese into "forget paying for TV airings; stream it first on Netflix!"

Seriously, what's the point of spending lots of money on TV air time when more and more eyeballs are online? Cheaper to stream and more likely to be watched going forward! Netflix is in Japan now too so no excuses!

Imagine same day Japan and US streaming, maybe even global streaming, plus subs and dubs.

That's what Netflix's involvement with anime could eventually develop into. They're bigger and have a lot more money to throw around than Crunchyroll so they have a greater influence on the change-resistant Japanese corporate suits.
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Posted 10/18/17 , edited 10/18/17
Re:Violet Evergarden.

The animation and art quality look amazing and it is disappointing that Crunchy roll allowed this show to slip through their fingers.

They need to do better to get the "must have" shows on their service or they will lose subscribers to competing platforms.

We will see I suppose...
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Posted 10/18/17 , edited 10/18/17

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(B)ut Netflix I think our greatest weapon in breaking out of being so niche.


In my opinion anime will always be a niche in West. Why? Fan-service. While there are certain anime series as well as movies that on their own have pushed into the lower edges of mainstream anime as a whole will never reach mainstream in the West because of the confluence of the fact that in the West and especially America animated = for kids and since the bulk of anime is not for kids it will keep banging against that brick wall. And if anime distorts itself to hurdle that wall it will no longer be what so many of us love about it.

There's nothing wrong with being a niche. You can make a lot of money in a niche market.
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Posted 10/18/17 , edited 10/18/17
Very true though and good point though anime is diverse to break the old adage of anime is for kids. Take comics - same stigma but now they're massive business across various media, Marvel is owned by Disney THE kids friendly iconic company themselves but it's not stopped us seeing The Punisher on TV or Deadpool on the big screen. The Walking Dead to Preacher, it's all mainstream now and accessed everywhere.

The more ways to access something the more we will break old views on anime. There will always be things which never sit with main stream yes - fan service as you spoke of, cultural differences between source material and the west and so on. Geek culture is all the rage these days though in not just comics but video games and books (Game of Thrones is massive). It's about getting people to check it out, Netflix can be that gateway and ideally the industry will thrive for it.
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Posted 10/18/17 , edited 10/18/17
Not every anime is dominated by fan service though, certainly not the guts of what ends up on Netflix.

Apart from Ghilbi movies, I refused to watch "cartoons" because they were for children, until AoT on Netflix. My bf suggested we watch it and I rolled my eyes and said okay.

After that I found Death Note and I was hooked. All through Netflix, all because of word of mouth on how good AoT was.

Like it or not anime IS becoming mainstream, and faster than you might think. Trust me if my ass who hated "cartoons" got into it, more are coming.

I been addicted ever since, my sis who is also in her thirties is addicted now too.

Through Netflix CR gained me as a premium sub and has for years, and my cash is hopefully going back into the anime system.

That's how it all works, innit?

I.E. I exemplify everything Skode said.
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I'm very glad to hear more people are getting into anime. But I've seen this before and I worry of a repeat of history. In the 90's anime saw a surge in the West and the US in particular. Big name companies in the US started carrying anime in-store; Media Play, Blockbuster, etc. It also started making inroads into late night TV. But just as it was starting to really surface into mainstream something happened. Something that can easily happen again. Parents, assuming "animated = cartoon = for kids" bought anime for their young children. Their child would come running up with some colorful, cartoon-looking box and the parent, not paying much attention, would buy it. I don't think you have to try hard to imagine the response when they realized what their 5 or 6 year olds were watching.

Perhaps the popularity of shows like The Simpsons, Futurama, and Southpark have made the current generation of parents more wary of just assuming if it's animated it's okay for young children to watch. I hope so. I hope I'm wrong. I just can't shake the feeling of deja vu.
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I'm very glad to hear more people are getting into anime. But I've seen this before and I worry of a repeat of history. In the 90's anime saw a surge in the West and the US in particular. Big name companies in the US started carrying anime in-store; Media Play, Blockbuster, etc. It also started making inroads into late night TV. But just as it was starting to really surface into mainstream something happened. Something that can easily happen again. Parents, assuming "animated = cartoon = for kids" bought anime for their young children. Their child would come running up with some colorful, cartoon-looking box and the parent, not paying much attention, would buy it. I don't think you have to try hard to imagine the response when they realized what their 5 or 6 year olds were watching.

Things are a lot better now. No hentai shelves with the kids movies at Blockbuster. (Seriously, that happened).

Most anime is sold online now and what is sold in stores tends to be the more "mainstream" hits.

I think parents are more aware now too. A lot of today's parents were the kids watching things in the 90s.
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domvina wrote:


Things are a lot better now. No hentai shelves with the kids movies at Blockbuster. (Seriously, that happened).

Most anime is sold online now and what is sold in stores tends to be the more "mainstream" hits.

I think parents are more aware now too. A lot of today's parents were the kids watching things in the 90s.


I sincerely hope you're right.
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/19/17
Parents of young children are likely to be well aware of the types cartoons available, specifically that not all of them are "kiddie" animation. Accessibility through many devices and apps leave the doors wide open for not just anime, but all sorts of media. There are parental controls for the apps, and Netflix has a completely separate section for Kids to prevent cross-over. That section includes popular anime such as Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, Youkai Watch. For adults, though, I have to question Netflix's idea of "Adult Animation" when the only anime currently included in that sub-genre are Miss Hokusai and Little Witch Academia.

My neighbor's 6-year-old son has his own tablet, has the Netflix app and connects at will. I get the feeling many parents are relying on Netflix to help them parent with those profile controls. (Especially when that neighbor's kid knows how to access dad's YouTube app through the XBox, too. Oopsie!) The neighbor two doors down already has CR, Netflix, etc as well. Even though sales of hard copies are almost non-existent, I can't imagine anime enthusiasm being hindered in today's instant access environment.
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 10/20/17
The people who make anime often style their shows in a way that appeals to a younger demographic. Even the more adult ones. If they want to reach a much broader audience they have to show that they can produce shows with the depth of high quality TV shows, such as the wire/got/true detective, or of the ghibli films, to pull an example from anime itself.

I think anime still has a shit load of room for growth in that regard.
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Posted 10/19/17 , edited 12/26/17

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I was livid when I found out CR botched and let netflix have Violet Evergarden.... now I will have to buy a subscription because thats a must see show. the artwork promises to be amazing... who needs plot of character development when your eyes are melting from the artwork!!!!
Just start a free trial. Luckily for me one of my credit cards can be "replaced" five times before they start charging me, so that gave me enough free trials for the year on Netflix

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