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Inequality - Sister New Devil: CR-Censored, Funi-Uncensored

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Posted 10/31/17 , edited 11/1/17

mikeloeven wrote:

The problem is twofold first being the fundamental concept of censorship. And why such backwards third world thinking is still allowed to exist in any modern society.

The second being all the licensing games that are being played between studios publishers and distribution services resulting in a hot mess. forget censored vs uncensored I have even seen some series where half the show is on one streaming service and the other half is licensed to a completely different service.


I'm no fan of it, but I understand why for live streaming, Western streaming services get the censored versions that air on Japanese broadcast television. That's because of AT-X, the premium Japanese satellite channel, which broadcasts uncensored versions of those same shows. The Japanese anime companies aren't going to screw up that deal, hence we almost always get censored versions.

With the result that uncensored versions of the show are out circulating in the wild of the internet, sometimes subbed before it's broadcast censored on a legal streaming service.

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Posted 10/31/17 , edited 11/1/17

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I hope this is something which will be corrected, and soon. I'm not holding my breath.

I wouldn't either, as we never got home video (uncensored) versions of earlier shows that CR had the home video rights to (and licensed to Discotek) such as Strike the Blood and Recently, My Sister is Unusual.


True, and Recently, My Sister is Unusual is one of those shows that is vastly different in its censored and uncensored forms.

However, Discotek was never in a streaming partnership relationship with CR, with the two services sharing shows, essentially evolving into one is subbed, one is dubbed, twins. Except one twin seems to be getting benefits over the other twin.
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Posted 10/31/17 , edited 11/1/17

lawdog wrote:

This is corporate inequality. Further, it's inequality between the dub and sub communities.


The sub community gets a lot of stuff the dub community doesn't get at all, because subbing is faster and cheaper. So maybe we could just shut up and let the dub community have the occasional rare benefit we don't get.

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Posted 11/1/17 , edited 11/1/17
I don't think the problem here is that CR is letting FUNi stream the better version, but the fact that CR has never bothered to update any of their content.

They never needed to before so I guess they're just going about it as usual, even if that mindset is obsolete now that they've entered the home video market.
On the other hand, this is also usual for FUNi. They've always updated their content, so once again, they're just going about as usual.

Even so, this should really be brought to to CR themselves. If they really want to be serious about this new way the company is headed, they really gotta innovate they're already existing platform to follow suit

Honestly though, the entire concept of anime streaming sites needs to innovate in some way or another. Some sites more than others but still.
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Posted 11/1/17 , edited 11/1/17

cdarklock wrote:


lawdog wrote:

This is corporate inequality. Further, it's inequality between the dub and sub communities.


The sub community gets a lot of stuff the dub community doesn't get at all, because subbing is faster and cheaper. So maybe we could just shut up and let the dub community have the occasional rare benefit we don't get.



I have nothing against the dub community (I also subscribe to Funi), though I inevitably prefer the subbed version. But this is not about throwing bones to the dub community.

Funi and CR are in a partnership. Essentially, from this point forward, one is going to be the subbed channel and the other the dubbed channel of the content they both share.

A partnership is ideally based upon the idea of equality, otherwise it is not a true partnership. If CR is not getting updated content while content is updated on Funi's site, Funi gains an advantage. Also people ask the natural question, "Why am I paying money to a legal site for censored and limited content, when the legal dub site gets updated content, and I can go to non-legal streaming sites for free."

I'm pointing this out because I want the partnership between CR and Funi to prosper, and because I want both companies to prosper. I don't want CR to become the poor step-child of this business deal.
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Posted 11/2/17 , edited 11/2/17

lawdog wrote:

A partnership is ideally based upon the idea of equality, otherwise it is not a true partnership. If CR is not getting updated content


Over the past two weeks, CR has added sixteen new titles to the catalog.

It's not that they aren't getting updated content, it's that you wanted them to update something else. It's just childish, petulant whinging.
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Posted 11/2/17 , edited 11/2/17
I mean I get what you want, but the sister new sevil has been on CR for over a year. That's a massive benefit CR has over FUNi in this case. But yea, I do think they should give CR the uncensored version after maybe a year?
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Posted 11/2/17 , edited 11/2/17

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I mean I get what you want, but the sister new sevil has been on CR for over a year. That's a massive benefit CR has over FUNi in this case. But yea, I do think they should give CR the uncensored version after maybe a year?


Crunchyroll should have it though. They were apparently the ones who coordinated the dubbing (outsourced to Bang Zoom). I think Funimation simply had it pressed on discs and distributed.

I don't consider the OP to be whining though. He is a customer spending money, he has a right to voice what he wants from Crunchyroll. If Crunchyroll is a company worth their salt, they would rather have people voicing opinions on what they want instead of simply taking their money elsewhere.

I bought the Bluray and have access to both the English Audio and the Japanese Audio with subtitles, so I really have no voice on the matter.
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Posted 11/2/17 , edited 11/2/17

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Crunchyroll should have it though. They were apparently the ones who coordinated the dubbing (outsourced to Bang Zoom). I think Funimation simply had it pressed on discs and distributed.

I don't consider the OP to be whining though. He is a customer spending money, he has a right to voice what he wants from Crunchyroll. If Crunchyroll is a company worth their salt, they would rather have people voicing opinions on what they want instead of simply taking their money elsewhere.

I bought the Bluray and have access to both the English Audio and the Japanese Audio with subtitles, so I really have no voice on the matter.

I never said the OP was whining. I even agreed. I'm just saying the uncut version is FUNi's early advantage, just like CR has the early simulcast. Temporary exclusivity is what I was suggesting.
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Posted 11/2/17 , edited 11/2/17

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I never said the OP was whining.


that part wasn't directed at you
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