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I noticed that a lot of people here talk about other genres, like shonen battle anime (e.g. Attack on Titan, My Hero Academia), slice-of-life anime, harem anime (e.g. Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, Monster Musume), but almost nothing in the way of mecha anime.

Why is mecha such a rarely talked about topic in anime?
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It's the current topic in the character face-off.
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MadeDragon wrote:

It's the current topic in the character face-off.


Looked up two of the pages, both the first and the most recent. How so?
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I think people talk about whats currently available and honestly mecha anime aren't as super prevalent today as they once were.
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Commander_PonyShep wrote:

Why is mecha such a rarely talked about topic in anime?


Probably because we've been talking about it for forty years and there's not much left to say.

I don't really watch mecha these days. Nothing interests me. Ever since the 1980s when the world decided lion Voltron was better than vehicle Voltron, the genre went off in a direction I didn't much like. Modern mecha stories tend to be built around the idea that one pilot in one mech is near-invincible unless the enemy has TWO pilots in TWO mecha. I don't much care for "mech pilot lands on fantasy world" stories.

I much prefer the interpersonal relationships in a large team that has to work together, and if anybody doesn't show up or isn't doing their job, they have no mech at all. The whole "even most of us are not as strong as all of us" vibe.

I'd like to see a layered anime where the weenie little loser guy finds a powerful mech, which then turns out to be part of a larger and more powerful mech... so his formerly-powerful status drops right back down to weenie little loser until he joins the team, which then proves to be part of a large army where teams of teams need to work together because just one team is still a weenie little loser in the context of the grand battle.

But then, as things unfold and progress, the squad of team mecha can't accomplish the goal, it has to be done by just one mech piloted by just one team. And then there's something where the team has to separate because only an individual piece can get the job done, and of course in the end it has to be a person outside of the mech and the skills that person needs are amazingly the exact skills the MC had all the way back at the beginning. That he thought were useless. And have, indeed, been useless throughout the story so far.

Just a whole notion of how there may always be something bigger, but bigger is not always better, and everything has value under the right circumstances. That seems uniquely suited to the mecha genre, but I never see anything like that.
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I find it boring (and kinda don't like the type of animation they use on machines in anime)
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Commander_PonyShep wrote:


MadeDragon wrote:

It's the current topic in the character face-off.


Looked up two of the pages, both the first and the most recent. How so?


The first post is updated to show the current contest (Best Mech Pilot right now.) The nominations began here, at the close of the previous contest.

If you read through, you'll see a lot of people aren't familiar with all the nominations. That suggests people tend to get their fill of mech stories after a while.
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Commander_PonyShep wrote:

I noticed that a lot of people here talk about other genres, like shonen battle anime (e.g. Attack on Titan, My Hero Academia), slice-of-life anime, harem anime (e.g. Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, Monster Musume), but almost nothing in the way of mecha anime.

Why is mecha such a rarely talked about topic in anime?


I agree that a big part of it is that more recent shows get more attention and mecha shows simply aren't as present in recent years. Also two of the shows you mention (AoT and MHA) are hugely popular and, especially in the case of MHA, mainstream; their viewership extends far beyond people whose primary video consumption is anime.

If part of your perception that "nobody here talks about mecha" is because of low response to some of your mecha-related threads, I'd say part of that is because your topics tend to be pretty narrow-focus and analytical, and that makes them less welcoming to folks who might like the mecha genre generally or might have watched and enjoyed some mecha shows but don't feel qualified to "get into the weeds" the way you seem to enjoy doing.

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MSG Thunderbolt has amazing jazz soundtrack through out the show both seasons
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Because mecha anime have shallow war stories. The original Gundam is cool (one of the few anime of the franchise that isn't romantic drama), Macross is also cool, but stuff like Heavy Metal L Gaim, Orguss (also romantic), Yuusha (in my eyes, it's a Transformer rip-off) and SPT Layzner? nobody cares. On the other hand, Kiko Senki Dragonar is something that I've been planning to watch for a while. Fortunately, mecha anime can adapt to motorsports themes like IGPX, which is one of the best anime from last decade and the genre can adapt to other themes beyond what you see in Gundam or Armored Trooper Votoms, which have shallow war stories compared to BattleTech (I'm a little surprised that there are no plans to make it into an anime, but okay).
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Honestly there aren't many current mecha series I enjoy. They invariably follow the same cookie-cutter plot: MC with little to no experience with mecha is thrust into situation with some sort of special OP mecha and discovers they are a genius pilot / "destined one" who is the only one able to pilot the mecha.

I tend to prefer series like Gunbuster where the MCs have to train and become amazing pilots. I really dislike the lazy shortcut of "MC is OP, now on to the story". (Iron-Blooded has really skirted the edge of my dislike zone with an MC who yes has training but is simultaneously OP, winning fights against superiorly trained and experienced pilots who rightly should have won just because he has a Gundam.)
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Many gundam series are ONA/OVAs set to lengthy release schedules, therefore not simulcast. Out of site, out of mind.
For anyone interested, here's the link to view some releases. http://na.gundam.info/index/white

Gundam Thunderbolt December Sky is a compilation movie of season 1 which released last year. Bandit Flower is a compilation movie of season 2 which released this year. Its dubbed version premiered at AnimeNYC. For jazz enthusiasts, Thunderbolt's soundtracks are a must have. At the Gundam Thunderbolt panel in NYC, Michael Sinterniklaas (CEO for NYAV Post recording studio) answered in response to jazz in gundam: After years of being a Gundam enthusiast, Thunderbolt is the adult reward. ....His statement captured it perfectly.
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Code Geass was the last great mecha anime
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Big mecha fan here. I haven't been enjoying the current recipe that mecha always seems to follow. Though lots of shows have unique animation and such, the basic premise is always rising up against the "evil organization". Even with this formula, some shows managed to do something unique with characters, but it's largely the same anywhere you look. Nothing has really caught my eye since AldNoah Zero. The upcoming Pandora anime looks like it might have potential:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/11/27-1/kana-hanazawa-is-a-hardened-bounty-hounter-in-juushinki-pandora

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KurtIrving wrote:

Because mecha anime have shallow war stories. The original Gundam is cool (one of the few anime of the franchise that isn't romantic drama), Macross is also cool, but stuff like Heavy Metal L Gaim, Orguss (also romantic), Yuusha (in my eyes, it's a Transformer rip-off) and SPT Layzner? nobody cares. On the other hand, Kiko Senki Dragonar is something that I've been planning to watch for a while. Fortunately, mecha anime can adapt to motorsports themes like IGPX, which is one of the best anime from last decade and the genre can adapt to other themes beyond what you see in Gundam or Armored Trooper Votoms, which have shallow war stories compared to BattleTech (I'm a little surprised that there are no plans to make it into an anime, but okay).


Wait, how in the world do you get that Votoms and L-Gaim are shallow? Both have some of the deepest and more interesting stories in anime!
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