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Inb4 "I PAID MY CR SUBSCRIPTION MONEY so that you could invent a time machine, go back in time, and somehow cause Funimation to license these titles for Latin/South America!"


Is it that hard to have sympathy for those that do not live in the USA/Canada? For example, the only shows that were added here in Australia were Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei (both of which I never heard about it).

I can totally see people's frustration, honestly. I try not complain about it because nowadays I know that licensing is pretty complex, but it can be frustrating when all you get is shows like Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei.


I enjoyed both Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei when I watched them years ago, give them a try.

CR can't afford to negotiate new worldwide licenses for old Funi US licenses unless they start charging you a lot more for the service.

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JusticeArrows wrote:


Inb4 "I PAID MY CR SUBSCRIPTION MONEY so that you could invent a time machine, go back in time, and somehow cause Funimation to license these titles for Latin/South America!"


Is it that hard to have sympathy for those that do not live in the USA/Canada? For example, the only shows that were added here in Australia were Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei (both of which I never heard about it).

I can totally see people's frustration, honestly. I try not complain about it because nowadays I know that licensing is pretty complex, but it can be frustrating when all you get is shows like Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei.


It is when people don't realise these are Funimation licenses not CrunchyRoll ones, they can only work with licenses they are given from Funi... Yet all the whiners do is threaten to do is cancel CR subs. They don't hate on Funi ignoring 90% of the planet historically, they don't thank CR for bringing these extra catalogues at no extra costs to those who may benefit. Nah they hate on Crunchyroll. It was understandable a year ago but after all this time people STILL not getting the memo on Funi licenses just irritate the hell out of me because CR has endeavoured to try and make every last simulcast THEY license worldwide excluding Asia and on every conceivable source you can watch it on but nope they get no credit, only moans because a different company licenses differently from them...


I completely understand where you are coming from, don't get me wrong. And I would go as far as to say that I don't even necessarily disagree with you. I don't think it's necessarily Crunchyroll's fault that they cannot get some licenses to places outside the USA/Canada, specially when it comes to Funimation titles. It's fine, I understand that.

The only issue is this: older titles. You mention simulcast, and you are absolutely right about that. I know Crunchyroll makes efforts to bring currently airing titles worldwide (except Asia obviously) and I am grateful and glad for that. Crunchyroll's simulcasting catalogue is very good, I can't really complain about that (here in Australia, for example, we have almost all simulcasting shows that US members have, and the rest I think are available at HIDIVE and AnimeLab). Simulcasting is not an issue at all.

Like I said, the only real issue that I have is older titles. For example, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. It was added to the USA catalogue a while back, but it's not available here in Australia (it's an anime that I have been wanting to watch for a while). I understand that it is not Crunchyroll's fault. The thing is, only the second season of Haruhi Suzumiya is avaliable here in Australia, and it's not even in streaming. There are other examples as well. There would be no legal way for me to watch the first season of Haruhi Suzumiya. It's simply not available here.

I hope I am not coming of like a whinger, I really. I like Crunchyroll and I hope they grow even more, but there are things that frustrate me about the service that I wish were different, admittedly, albeit I understand that sometimes it's out of Crunchyroll's control.
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JusticeArrows wrote:


Inb4 "I PAID MY CR SUBSCRIPTION MONEY so that you could invent a time machine, go back in time, and somehow cause Funimation to license these titles for Latin/South America!"


Is it that hard to have sympathy for those that do not live in the USA/Canada? For example, the only shows that were added here in Australia were Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei (both of which I never heard about it).

I can totally see people's frustration, honestly. I try not complain about it because nowadays I know that licensing is pretty complex, but it can be frustrating when all you get is shows like Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei.


I enjoyed both Kiddy Grade and Solty Rei when I watched them years ago, give them a try.

CR can't afford to negotiate new worldwide licenses for old Funi US licenses unless they start charging you a lot more for the service.




I will give them a go, thanks. I think I let my preconceived notions of the shows get the better of me. I just thought they were generic looking titles, my bad.
Honestly, I feel like paying more would be totally worth it if we get shows like Haruhi Suzumiya. I am willing to pay for it.
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Ahhhh, Nadesico!!

And for straight up laughs, D-Frag!
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Was about to get excited about rewatching D-Frag, but apparently nothing gets released in Finland initially and then later on the stuff just pops up without any further notice.


Well Nozomi only have rights to U.S and Canada.
Funimation have Nordic rights but it doesn't include Finland and that is very complicated to explain why.
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Really happy to see Big Windup added to the list!
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The Day Funimation releases every subtitled anime on CR will be a good one!
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The Day Funimation releases every subtitled anime on CR will be a good one!


Unlikely since they already stated that some shows have to remain on their site because of contracts.
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Martian Successor Nadesico: Prince of Darkness (Movie) is missing on the show page. http://www.crunchyroll.com/martian-successor-nadesico
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JusticeArrows wrote:

Is it that hard to have sympathy for those that do not live in the USA/Canada?

Not really, since I immigrated here myself and most of my family is overseas (although I was born here, I have no memories of America prior to returning years later). As Skode24 said, the problem is people looking at Funi/Nozomi catalog additions and saying "This is further proof that CR doesn't care about my region."


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There would be no legal way for me to watch the first season of Haruhi Suzumiya. It's simply not available here.

Yeah, the situation is bad. In a brief decade we've gone from virtually zero legal streaming to a situation where about 70% of what I want to watch is legally streamable here in the USA, which is great progress. But the worldwide situation is a mess, with shows' streaming rights for certain regions going to physical distributors that won't stream them, or to no one at all. Some rights were previously held by companies that went out of business. Physical media use is declining, and potential profits are being lost. One would think it would be in Japanese companies' interest to get their content streaming in as many regions as possible.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2016-10-17/.107730

Japan's seemingly-inevitable tumble off the economic cliff in the next few decades is a constant concern for every Japanese business, especially one such as anime, which still depends heavily on the domestic market to make its money, and on domestic talent to get produced. The anime industry is trying to head this disaster off at the pass. Both the government and the major companies have invested a great amount of resources into expanding the international market, especially into China and into English speaking parts of the world. The last five years have seen an epoch-making shift in how much revenue comes in from places like Crunchyroll and Chinese streaming platforms, versus Japanese fans. I haven't seen recent numbers, but it's generally thought that overseas sales are now as important to a show's bottom line as domestic fans -- perhaps moreso.

I'd love to see more classics made streamable in more regions, but who knows whether that will or can happen? Especially because most viewership (and therefore profits) is driven by currently airing shows, with catalog titles being a lower priority.

I've been planning to watch Martian Successor Nadesico next year, but I couldn't find a legal place to stream it until it was added here yesterday. That's not a new deal with Japan, though; Nozomi has had the rights for years, and just now sublicensed the show to CR. http://www.mtv.com/news/2625156/martian-successor-nadesico-dvd/

I don't even know how to find out who has the streaming rights for Australia, if anyone does. Very possibly no one does.


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The Day Funimation releases every subtitled anime on CR will be a good one!

To add to motokosuzumich's reply, it has to be a gradual process, because it takes CR's employees time and work to get each show properly converted and uploaded here. But hey, I'd say it's been going impressively fast for about half a year now.
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JusticeArrows wrote:

Is it that hard to have sympathy for those that do not live in the USA/Canada?

Not really, since I immigrated here myself and most of my family is overseas (although I was born here, I have no memories of America prior to returning years later). As Skode24 said, the problem is people looking at Funi/Nozomi catalog additions and saying "This is further proof that CR doesn't care about my region."


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There would be no legal way for me to watch the first season of Haruhi Suzumiya. It's simply not available here.

Yeah, the situation is bad. In a brief decade we've gone from virtually zero legal streaming to a situation where about 70% of what I want to watch is legally streamable here in the USA, which is great progress. But the worldwide situation is a mess, with shows' streaming rights for certain regions going to physical distributors that won't stream them, or to no one at all. Some rights were previously held by companies that went out of business. Physical media use is declining, and potential profits are being lost. One would think it would be in Japanese companies' interest to get their content streaming in as many regions as possible.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2016-10-17/.107730

Japan's seemingly-inevitable tumble off the economic cliff in the next few decades is a constant concern for every Japanese business, especially one such as anime, which still depends heavily on the domestic market to make its money, and on domestic talent to get produced. The anime industry is trying to head this disaster off at the pass. Both the government and the major companies have invested a great amount of resources into expanding the international market, especially into China and into English speaking parts of the world. The last five years have seen an epoch-making shift in how much revenue comes in from places like Crunchyroll and Chinese streaming platforms, versus Japanese fans. I haven't seen recent numbers, but it's generally thought that overseas sales are now as important to a show's bottom line as domestic fans -- perhaps moreso.

I'd love to see more classics made streamable in more regions, but who knows whether that will or can happen? Especially because most viewership (and therefore profits) is driven by currently airing shows, with catalog titles being a lower priority.

I've been planning to watch Martian Successor Nadesico next year, but I couldn't find a legal place to stream it until it was added here yesterday. That's not a new deal with Japan, though; Nozomi has had the rights for years, and just now sublicensed the show to CR. http://www.mtv.com/news/2625156/martian-successor-nadesico-dvd/

I don't even know how to find out who has the streaming rights for Australia, if anyone does. Very possibly no one does.


catseyestiger wrote:

The Day Funimation releases every subtitled anime on CR will be a good one!

To add to motokosuzumich's reply, it has to be a gradual process, because it takes CR's employees time and work to get each show properly converted and uploaded here. But hey, I'd say it's been going impressively fast for about half a year now. :)


I actually agree with you on this. It's not really CR's fault, especially when they add Funi/Nozomi catalog titles. I am aware of that.

I just find it disappointing because sometimes there are simple not a single way to watch an anime legally. For example, Aria the Natural, that was just added... There is not a single way way to watch Aria the Natural. And I am not talking about streaming only, I am talking about DVDs and Blu-rays too. Only the first season is available here. How can we watch shows like Aria the Natural legally? It makes the industry rather hard to support when stuff like this happens, honestly. I want to support the anime industry. I don't even like pirating. But with the way it works right now, it's hard. I don't blame CR though.

I am aware, and I am very glad that legal streaming of anime in the USA is good. It's a really good thing for the industry and for people that like anime in the USA. It's very good. Yeah, worldwide streaming is kind of mess indeed. Especially when it comes to older titles. Saying that, simulcasting here in Australia it's pretty good. We have quite a lot of currently airing shows here on CR, and if my calculations are correct, we have almost all the shows you guys in the USA have, so there's that. So yeah, I don't know about other countries, but simulcasting here is quite good (with exceptions, like Drifters).

I see. That makes sense, yeah.

As for Haruhi Suzumiya, I don't know. Madman Entertainment (which is Australia's biggest anime distributor) only have the season 2 and the film. It's complicated. In a situation like this, how can I even watch watch the show? :/

I and others tried to make clear that we would like to have Haruhi on AnimeLab (Madman streaming service), but I am painfully aware that it does not work this way. I don't even know if it matters to send our feedback to them.

Anyway, sorry if I came off as rude in any way. It's not my intention. And sorry for my formatting too.

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@JusticeArrows No problem, I think we agree on everything.

This has been in discussions lately: https://youtu.be/saMr7mITNvw?t=3m55s
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What happened with LIttle Busters, Nagi no Asakura and Strike the Blood why they just get removed without telling us anything
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What happened with LIttle Busters, Nagi no Asakura and Strike the Blood why they just get removed without telling us anything

I just checked an all 3 still show as available, although looking at the original announcement and checking the media restriction tag for each title, it appears some territories have been lost.

The currently listed territories (by 2 letter ISO codes) are:

Strike the Blood
ca gl pr us vi cx cc dk fo fi gg is ie im je nl no se tr gb as au gu nz nf mp um za hm

Little Busters
ca gl pr us vi cx cc dk fo fi gg is ie im je nl no se gb as au gu nz nf mp um za hm

Nagi no Asukara
ca gl pr us vi cx cc dk fo fi gg is ie im je no se gb as au gu nz nf mp um za hm


At first glance, it appears the casualties were Central and South America and some European countries.

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@JusticeArrows No problem, I think we agree on everything.

This has been in discussions lately: https://youtu.be/saMr7mITNvw?t=3m55s


Yh CR and other major streamers like Netflix have pretty much their hands tied behind their back when it comes to other Licenses.

This is why Crunchy (and netflix when it comes to their own anime) should grow so that it can aquire more titles (maybe even older titles) worldwide.
Funi is pretty much Mostly US and UK only (although I have heard of them promising to expand their Licenses further into the eu but I haven't a thing regarding that as of recently) and Animestrike is just Only US, this is Why I I rather see Licenses go towards CR and Netflix because they at least go Alot outside the US.

but it would be really nice if they could go Region free, but going that way will cost A LOT of Resources.


And yh, Digi does make a lot of good points.
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