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Democrats call for resignation with multiple reports, Republicans elect (virtual certainty) Roy Moore despite multiple child reports, and finally we have "Grab 'em low" Trump. As has been mentioned many times, Republicans will tolerate any behavior if it means keeping a vote.


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So it is finally happening. I wonder when he is going to come out as gay.

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So they will have to get rid of everyone? I think they are just removing those that have way too much against them and they cannot defend.


Way to keep things classy. And no, not everyone has trouble keeping their hands and dicks away from uninvited places.
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Allegations were made against actor, Jeremy Piven, which he vehemently denied. He then voluntarily took a lie detector test, which he passed. So I thought that was interesting. I wonder how many of these accusations are false.
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Rujikin wrote:

So it is finally happening. I wonder when he is going to come out as gay.

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So they will have to get rid of everyone? I think they are just removing those that have way too much against them and they cannot defend.


Way to keep things classy. And no, not everyone has trouble keeping their hands and dicks away from uninvited places.


Haven't you noticed a bunch of pedophiles and sexual predators suddenly become gay once outrage builds up? A month ago I seen a pedo suddenly become gay once it was going sour for him and then the media defended him saying the allegations were homophobic.

You said allegations not actually committing the act. Many allegations popup then when they ask for proof they shut up and just hope people don't notice they lack any proof or consistent details. They need to actually punish people for lying about this stuff.
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Moore is going gay? Now that is one ugly old bear
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-oyaji wrote:

Allegations were made against actor, Jeremy Piven, which he vehemently denied. He then voluntarily took a lie detector test, which he passed. So I thought that was interesting. I wonder how many of these accusations are false.


Lie detector tests aren't really a good measurement of someone speaking the truth or not. A lot of innocent people would fail the test due to increased nervousness and vice versa. I haven't really been paying attention to the whole sexual abuse/assault explosion of allegations but the probability of at least some of the accusations being false is probably high, I find it completely outrageous to deny that.


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tomas123987 wrote:

Democrats call for resignation with multiple reports, Republicans elect (virtual certainty) Roy Moore despite multiple child reports, and finally we have "Grab 'em low" Trump. As has been mentioned many times, Republicans will tolerate any behavior if it means keeping a vote.


hypocrisy.thy party is republican


I think the party system has failed Americans (And Australians) I'd prefer more of a individualistic model or at least more parties to represent the various demographics instead of this Democrats vs. Republicans team barracking.
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-oyaji wrote:

Allegations were made against actor, Jeremy Piven, which he vehemently denied. He then voluntarily took a lie detector test, which he passed. So I thought that was interesting. I wonder how many of these accusations are false.


Lie detector tests aren't really a good measurement of someone speaking the truth or not. A lot of innocent people would fail the test due to increased nervousness and vice versa. I haven't really been paying attention to the whole sexual abuse/assault explosion of allegations but the probability of at least some of the accusations being false is probably high, I find it completely outrageous to deny that.


Well, as you say, nervousness can give a false positive. So him sitting on that hot seat, with all that's been going on, and passing, to me gives a decent probability of truth.
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Rujikin wrote:

Haven't you noticed a bunch of pedophiles and sexual predators suddenly become gay once outrage builds up? A month ago I seen a pedo suddenly become gay once it was going sour for him and then the media defended him saying the allegations were homophobic.

You said allegations not actually committing the act. Many allegations popup then when they ask for proof they shut up and just hope people don't notice they lack any proof or consistent details. They need to actually punish people for lying about this stuff.


If you're referring to Kevin Spacey, the dude got ripped apart for his timing on coming out.

And people who publicly come out with accusations tend to get flayed alive in the public court of opinion, even when there were multiple accusers (see Bill Cosby's accusers). There's significant cost to a person's life for coming forward with accusations against anyone, particularly a famous person. But hey, way to assume accusers are liars, keeping the discussion classy as hell.
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qwueri wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Haven't you noticed a bunch of pedophiles and sexual predators suddenly become gay once outrage builds up? A month ago I seen a pedo suddenly become gay once it was going sour for him and then the media defended him saying the allegations were homophobic.

You said allegations not actually committing the act. Many allegations popup then when they ask for proof they shut up and just hope people don't notice they lack any proof or consistent details. They need to actually punish people for lying about this stuff.


If you're referring to Kevin Spacey, the dude got ripped apart for his timing on coming out.

And people who publicly come out with accusations tend to get flayed alive in the public court of opinion, even when there were multiple accusers (see Bill Cosby's accusers). There's significant cost to a person's life for coming forward with accusations against anyone, particularly a famous person. But hey, way to assume accusers are liars, keeping the discussion classy as hell.


I am and the day after he came out I seen news organizations putting out stuff questioning why he was being so viciously attacked for coming out as gay when he was being attacked for being a pedo. The internet and all conservative media ripped him a new one and called out the stations that pulled that shit. Did they end up switching and attacking him to cover up?

Accusers can be liars. Way to assume guilty until proven innocent for the accused.
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Posted 12/7/17 , edited 12/8/17

Rujikin wrote:

I am and the day after he came out I seen news organizations putting out stuff questioning why he was being so viciously attacked for coming out as gay when he was being attacked for being a pedo. The internet and all conservative media ripped him a new one and called out the stations that pulled that shit. Did they end up switching and attacking him to cover up?

Accusers can be liars. Way to assume guilty until proven innocent for the accused.



I didn't follow the Spacey news closely, but I did not see outlets posing the question of why he was being attacked for coming out as gay other than to pose the comparison that he was dredging up the old gay=pedo stereotype.

And of course accusers can be liars. So can the accused. The predisposition to assume the accusers are liars is precisely why so few come forward, along with the fact that it carries the risk of throwing their life down the shitter should they lack ironclad proof or a bevvy of other accusers to come forward as well. It's funny how "guilty until proven innocent" usually winds up putting the accusers on public trial long before they're ever taken seriously.
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