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Posted 12/22/17 , edited 12/22/17
I thought 2 year OS update and 3 year security updates was short for Google phones You have to upgrade to the new iphone pretty much if you don't want any slow down? either that or just disable updates when a new phone comes out


https://www.wired.com/story/apple-iphone-battery-slow-down/

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/312208/Apple_confirms_software_updates_affected_the_performance_of_older_iPhones.php

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Posted 12/22/17 , edited 12/22/17
goodness, some people don't always jump on board for the newest of the new, but if you're an apple person of any sort you best get on board or this is going to happen. since I tend to end up breaking an apple product eventually I tend to stick with Motorola products when it comes to cell phones. but for those who enjoy apple best be prepared for errors.
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Posted 12/28/17 , edited 12/29/17

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I thought 2 year OS update and 3 year security updates was short for Google phones You have to upgrade to the new iphone pretty much if you don't want any slow down? either that or just disable updates when a new phone comes out


Awfully odd that this shows up in the "Gaming" forum.
I guess, indirectly, it makes sense (if you're a frequent iOS/mobile gamer?).

Anyways, this is one of those things that most people had assumed in some way or another since the first iPhone.
The only difference was that there wasn't enough evidence to support it.
Even now, to play Devil's Advocate, I would say that Apple can easily state that their technology to lengthen battery life caused unforeseen consequences in overall system stability (making it slower).
The issue is that there isn't a predefined "time" that the phone will become to slow down, only when the battery is considered to have reached 20% of it's "lifespan" that Apple starts performing these "optimizations".
With that said, it could be one or two years depending on how frequently you charge your phone and how often you let it reach 0%.
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Posted 12/28/17 , edited 12/29/17

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dulun18 wrote:

I thought 2 year OS update and 3 year security updates was short for Google phones You have to upgrade to the new iphone pretty much if you don't want any slow down? either that or just disable updates when a new phone comes out


Awfully odd that this shows up in the "Gaming" forum.
I guess, indirectly, it makes sense (if you're a frequent iOS/mobile gamer?).

Anyways, this is one of those things that most people had assumed in some way or another since the first iPhone.
The only difference was that there wasn't enough evidence to support it.
Even now, to play Devil's Advocate, I would say that Apple can easily state that their technology to lengthen battery life caused unforeseen consequences in overall system stability (making it slower).
The issue is that there isn't a predefined "time" that the phone will become to slow down, only when the battery is considered to have reached 20% of it's "lifespan" that Apple starts performing these "optimizations".
With that said, it could be one or two years depending on how frequently you charge your phone and how often you let it reach 0%.


I reported it to a mod and asked if they can move it to the miscellaneous section right after i posted it but it's still here... btw, You went on a short vacation or something ?


This is nothing new but here we are !!

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/27/16822736/apple-battery-slowdown-iphone-6-6s-se-lawsuit

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Posted 12/28/17 , edited 12/29/17
That’s quite old news, but anyway. It’s the same for every device, and everyone with put hate comments towards Apple, i can inderstand them, and that’s quite greedy. But it’s about business. I guess...i would know that if i owned a company but i don’t
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/29/17

dulun18 wrote:
I reported it to a mod and asked if they can move it to the miscellaneous section right after i posted it but it's still here... btw, You went on a short vacation or something ?

This is nothing new but here we are !!

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/27/16822736/apple-battery-slowdown-iphone-6-6s-se-lawsuit



Not surprising, "Miscellaneous" is a bit of a cesspool of back and forth oddness as of late.
Yeah, went into a bit of a hibernation (had off since last Friday, traveling back home tomorrow - 10-hour drive back).

As for Apple: https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/
It appears that Apple is going to drop the cost of battery replacement to $29 (from the standard $79) for the next year.
The phrasing here is quite interesting:


Early in 2018, we will issue an iOS software update with new features that give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone’s battery, so they can see for themselves if its condition is affecting performance.


They never claim that they're disabling this "feature" (to improve battery life).
Instead, they state that they're going to give users the ability to see the "health" of the battery (much like laptop manufacturers did between 2006-2014, I'm imagining).
You know Apple isn't going to live this down so easily, Android users and fanboys alike will make sure this is a constant bullet point in discussions going further.

Also note: the page I linked directly to Apple's statement is on their front page but you have to scroll beyond their product offerings.
This is generic Apple logic - "Sure, we apologize but we don't want new customers to see it just in case they haven't heard of this yet."
They did the same thing when they had to apologize to Samsung on its UK page; they pushed the notice far from the top of the page and the apology was basically "The UK courts felt that Samsung isn't identical to Apple, but other courts think we're cooler. So there's that".
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/29/17

Cydoemus wrote:
Awfully odd that this shows up in the "Gaming" forum.

I've moved it now.

dulun18 wrote:
I reported it to a mod and asked if they can move it to the miscellaneous section right after i posted it but it's still here.


I don't recall seeing it in reports myself, but it seems unlikely any mod would have deliberately ignored that report. However, It's not impossible the report was accidentally cleared if it came in the midst of a ton of spam reports, or even that someone thought they'd moved it, but the move didn't "stick "(which doesn't happen often, but does happen occasionally.) Sorry for the inconvenience/confusion.
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/30/17
in other news, Apple had to eat their own foot when they released an apology because they knew about it sort of thing. https://www.phonedog.com/2017/12/28/apple-apology-slowing-down-old-iphones-cheaper-battery-replacements anyone who knows of Steve Jobs knows that this isn't the first nor the last time Apple is going to have to insert foot and/or eat it. at least they said they were going to apologize and gave up a cheaper battery replacement, they could have ignored it all and hoped it went away.
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/30/17
Ha. The joke's on them, I stopped updating my old iPhone back once iOS 8.4 hit and I realized that it completely messed up the music shuffling feature on my new phone.

Pretty sure that phone is still slow either way... But at least it can shuffle my library of music like it is supposed to.
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Posted 12/29/17 , edited 12/30/17
apple is a joke ever since steve jobs passed away, every one knows this except stupid hipsters

you know who im talking about
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This entire situation was created by Steve Jobs who was both against accessible batteries and allowing the consumer to replace said batteries.

Anyone here who has had the problem of a phone chronically straight up turning off without warning can attest that it is a serious problem.

Because Apple has created it's own mess of being the only source for fixing iPhone problems, this was the most practical thing they could have done. If you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it.

This idea that it was meant to sell newer iPhones is ridiculous and doesn't fit the actions of the company.
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Posted 12/30/17 , edited 12/30/17

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This entire situation was created by Steve Jobs who was both against accessible batteries and allowing the consumer to replace said batteries.

Anyone here who has had the problem of a phone chronically straight up turning off without warning can attest that it is a serious problem.

Because Apple has created it's own mess of being the only source for fixing iPhone problems, this was the most practical thing they could have done. If you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it.

This idea that it was meant to sell newer iPhones is ridiculous and doesn't fit the actions of the company.


I agree completely.
They would not purposely slow one gen behind just for the sake of selling new phones. They don't need that help to begin with.

They did it to save some batteries. Only thing they did wrong was not let anyone know,but even if they did would've still been a shit storm.
I love my iPhone and if my phone slows down half a second for each action,i'll still love it and use it.
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Posted 12/30/17 , edited 12/30/17
well an update KILLED my ipad couple years ago by disabling the wifi and I was not the only one had that problem and since the warranty has passed , I couldn't do a thing with it but throw it away .
I was pretty pissed off back then which is why I haven't bought another ipad ever since and refuse to get one and now this is making me paranoid since I have an iPhone 6s for just 18 months now. I have been refusing any new updates lately.

Big companies do evil scheme in the background just to increase sales and say oh we didn't know it was going to that Bullshit!! Oh they know alright, its called calculated manipulation of product demise. Save the batteries my a**!!

Also pissing me how Apple is neglecting their laptop because they cant manipulate it as much as the smaller hardware products. Microsoft does that too which why I own different laptop with different windows OS in it so I can still use my expensive softwares.

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Posted 12/30/17 , edited 12/30/17
"Another reason why I don't use crApple products" could have been the headline.
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