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Posted 1/7/18 , edited 1/8/18
Alright so my family has this male cat, Tiki, who's roughly about about 3 years old. We got him from the shelter along with his brother, Cato, about 2 years ago when they were estimated to be about 6-7 months old.

About a year ago, Tiki started to spray inside our house, as well as pee on the floors, and we have no idea why and can't seem to get him to stop this behavior. We have to clean up after him at least once, even twice a day. It seems to have gotten worse than usual in the past couple months. My parents are threatening to get rid of him if we can't stop him and I really don't want that to happen So if anyone has any advice on how I can help him I'd really appreciate it!

Some background info that could be helpful?:

- We have several other cats (5 including Tiki) in our home and believe he may have issues with one or more of them that cause him to become territorial. We also have 2 dogs and a parakeet, however he doesn't interact with them much. All of our cats and dogs have been spayed or neutered, including Tiki.
- Tiki is not really aggressive toward any of our cats, however he does seem to irritate them. He likes to chase them around which causes our other cats to hiss and paw at him, even when he just approaches them to sniff them.
- 2 out of our 5 cats are allowed outside. Tiki is not one of them, but I believe it could possibly stem from Tiki being able to smell other outdoor cats on our 2 cats since our neighborhood has several of them roaming around.
- We took him to the vet when this behavior first started to check for any signs of some sort of physical issue or disease that could be the cause, however the vet found nothing.
- He rarely pees on carpet unless it's on a removable mat on our hard tiled floors. The most common places he sprays/pees are in our bathrooms, by the front door, and by the fireplace. The only time he's peed on carpet was in my dad's office, which we had just recently remodeled and usually leave the door closed at all times.
- We have 8 litter boxes spread out around the house, both closed top litter boxes and plastic tubs, as well as one automated self-cleaning litter box. We clean all of them every single day and use unscented litter.
- We have several cat trees around our house (2 large ones downstairs, one large one and 4 small ones upstairs) however he doesn't seem to use them often except for a small one in my room that he likes to look out the window from.
- He spends a lot of time in my room at night and has never sprayed or peed in my room (although just yesterday I caught him trying to spray a wall by my door for the first time, but I stopped him). His brother, Cato, also spends a lot of time in my room and usually sleeps in my bed at night. No other cats come in my room except for those two.

If anyone needs any more info that could possibly help you figure out how I can save Tiki, please let me know! I'd appreciate any advice, such as what we can change around the house to make him more comfortable, or any possibly training methods, etc. Everything helps
Posted 1/7/18 , edited 1/8/18
Crunchyroll aint the place to look for this. Go on youtube and there are videos about it.
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First thing to answer is if he's been neutered and when.

Male cats spray if they aren't or if they're kinda old when they are.

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SuperRad-PrimeSupreme wrote:

Crunchyroll aint the place to look for this. Go on youtube and there are videos about it.


I've gone online and looked up a lot already, I mean we're still in the process of trying other things we find online but I personally wanted other people's opinions, including those who may know more than I do, and Crunchyroll is the only site I go to that actually has forums. Just wanted to give it a shot my dude, it's not like this is my only source of information I'm going off of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


serifsansserif wrote:

First thing to answer is if he's been neutered and when.

Male cats spray if they aren't or if they're kinda old when they are.



Yep he's been neutered, all of our cats have. The shelter we got him from requires they're fixed once they're adopted, so he was around 6-8 months old when he was fixed. Not sure if that would count as him being a little older or not though.
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My next thing is that it may just be how many cats you already have and the fact that he's new.

Cats aren't typically social creatures, and the more there are it starts to make them feel cramped. You'd be surprised by how much space a cat needs...
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^ That's not true, cats are social animals.

It sounds like Tiki needs stimulation and interaction. Play with him more, it may help with his behavioral issues.

http://www.catster.com/lifestyle/play-with-cats-behavior-care

http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-play-is-important-for-your-cat

http://www.catbehaviorassociates.com/interactive-play-therapy-for-cats/
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serifsansserif wrote:

My next thing is that it may just be how many cats you already have and the fact that he's new.

Cats aren't typically social creatures, and the more there are it starts to make them feel cramped. You'd be surprised by how much space a cat needs...


Well he isn't extremely new, we had him for about a year before this started happening and he seemed to do fine before, so we aren't sure what has changed. I'm currently trying to make sure he always has access to my room and I have some nice hiding spots in here which will hopefully give him a chance to "get away" from everyone


sena3927 wrote:

^ That's not true, cats are social animals.

It sounds like Tiki needs stimulation and interaction. Play with him more, it may help with his behavioral issues.

http://www.catster.com/lifestyle/play-with-cats-behavior-care

http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-play-is-important-for-your-cat

http://www.catbehaviorassociates.com/interactive-play-therapy-for-cats/


Thank you so much for those links! I'll definitely look into them. I've been trying to interact with him a bit whenever I see him around the house but from the articles I already see stuff I can do better Thank you and hopefully it will improve his behavior!
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sena3927 wrote:

^ That's not true, cats are social animals.

It sounds like Tiki needs stimulation and interaction. Play with him more, it may help with his behavioral issues.

http://www.catster.com/lifestyle/play-with-cats-behavior-care

http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-play-is-important-for-your-cat

http://www.catbehaviorassociates.com/interactive-play-therapy-for-cats/


http://catsinternational.org/the-cats-view-of-territory/

http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/cats/tips/marking_territory.html

https://www.paws.org/library/cats/behavior/aggression/

The sheer number of cats it's sharing space with and what the peeing typically represents is why I say he's cramped and acting territorial.

Typically we've only ever kept 2 or 3 in a house, and even then it typically turns into 2 against 1.

This is a household of 5 cats, 2 dogs, at least 3 humans and 1 bird..... And two of the cats are sort of let out while he's not and there's neighborhood strays that roam about.

I'm trying to politely say that the place is probably too cramped for yet another cat. It may be too much stimulation instead of not enough...
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Posted 1/8/18 , edited 1/8/18
At one point we had 12 or 13 cats living in the same house, and there weren't any problems. They got along just fine, and it wasn't cramped at all. (They were all rescues, strays who showed up starving, or adopted from people who couldn't keep them.)

"Too many cats" is a human idea, based on human misconceptions and prejudices. Like the one about cats not being social animals.

As that first article points out, cats living in the wild are territorial because prey is limited. But in a household, where there is plenty of food available, territory isn't an issue. (The same article mentions 14 cats living in the same house by the way.) The kitty in question is neutered, so that's not the problem. He was checked out by the vet and there don't seem to be any health problems. There are plenty of litter boxes available.

So by process of elimination, it sounds like he's acting out and needs more attention. He's not allowed outside, so he's missing out on that fun time. Interactive play is really important for housecats.
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Posted 6/25/18 , edited 6/26/18
maybe there are too many litter boxes that are marked as by the others and he need his own personal one on he can use to feel comfortable.
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Posted 6/28/18 , edited 6/28/18
I'm going to guess that he just doesn't like living with so many other cats (not to mention the other pets) and is being territorial. Some cats can handle being in a multi-cat household and others can't, no matter how cat-friendly the environment is.
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