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Post Reply If transferring consciousness is possible, which body would you choose?
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Posted 1/14/18 , edited 1/14/18
So hear me out, this has a rather scientific background.

1. So you got a clone body without consciousness, you upload the short term memory and transfer your consciousness over.
Pros:
It's a human body. You should be well suited.
Cons:
Could you grow a human body without consciousness? You won't have your long term memory.

2. You got an android body that is most likely powered by batteries, you recreate your short and longer term memory and transfer your consciousness over.
Pros:
Easy to fabricate. Comes with short and long term memory.
Cons:
It's not a human body. Mostly prosthetics. Cannot simulate brain plasticity

3. You are transferred to a body in a cybernetic space and everything is ran with computer force.
Pros:
If magnetic field is the only thing you need, it could be simulated in a fabricated space time.
Cons:
The computer could crash wiping out everything in it. Hacking, Not to mention glitching and stability.

4. Your body is recreated in another space time thanks to the computer.
Pros:
This has no flaws, but to manipulate atoms on a quasi, subatomic scale to enable material transformation is not yet possible. Even if you know the structure of space time you still need to reconstruct everything on a molecular scale. Which should be easy if you know the quasi, subatomic structure.

Really, choice 4 is the best, but it's the hardest to achieve, who wouldn't want to create materials out of thin air with copy and paste by drawing into the 3D space. I have no idea how this is going to work and whether you can merge the physical space time with it.

Choice 1 is most likely and the most classic, I dunno what losing long term memory would be like. And it might not be possible to keep a body dormant for this long. Don't worry, it all happens in your sleep.
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Posted 1/14/18 , edited 1/22/18
android body, it worked well in Surrogates http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986263/
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Posted 1/14/18 , edited 1/14/18

niotabunny wrote:

android body, it worked well in Surrogates http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986263/


One more thing, this goes in the cons. Android body cannot simulate brain plasticity, sorry I forgot to add this.

P.S I thought it'll be more like Avatar
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Posted 1/14/18 , edited 1/15/18
Android, though it actually branches into the third option.

Most people cannot handle the fourth, and I know that I'm one of them.
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Posted 1/14/18 , edited 1/15/18

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Android, though it actually branches into the third option.

Most people cannot handle the fourth, and I know that I'm one of them.


The definition about an android would be like David 8. You get a body that looks like human, the neurons, and it runs with potassium and sodium ions. Except the neurons are made of plastic or some other materials. Our body has the active transport pump that is activated with ATP, a cellular energy currency to cause the nerve impulse firing. For the android body, to build a body that uses ATP, would be quite hard, even as a prosthetic in present day. So no it does not overlap with option 3. Right and it does not simulate brain plasticity if it is built with plastic.

Fourth option is the ability to modify all materials in existence. Sure you've seen the Paint program, where you can draw with lines and create shapes. Imagine drawing lines and shapes in the real physical world, what would it be like? My idea is to build a space time inside a computer and attempt to modify the molecules in this space time with formulas. Whether this is possible is out of my reach. But essentially you are like a God. It is not about reincarnation.


P.S I should add an option 5, free floating magnetic field in mid air. I know a lot of hardcore fans would like this
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Posted 1/15/18 , edited 1/15/18

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The definition about an android would be like David 8. You get a body that looks like human, the neurons, and it runs with potassium and sodium ions. Except the neurons are made of plastic or some other materials. Our body has the active transport pump that is activated with ATP, a cellular energy currency to cause the nerve impulse firing. For the android body, to build a body that uses ATP, would be quite hard, even as a prosthetic in present day. So no it does not overlap with option 3. Right and it does not simulate brain plasticity if it is built with plastic.

Fourth option is the ability to modify all materials in existence. Sure you've seen the Paint program, where you can draw with lines and create shapes. Imagine drawing lines and shapes in the real physical world, what would it be like? My idea is to build a space time inside a computer and attempt to modify the molecules in this space time with formulas. Whether this is possible is out of my reach. But essentially you are like a God. It is not about reincarnation.


P.S I should add an option 5, free floating magnetic field in mid air. I know a lot of hardcore fans would like this


How do you expect the human "mind" to be transplanted into the android without downloading the information? A computer or something similar is theoretically necessary, which should mean that number 3 pretty well describes the "mind" whilst it's not in the android body. You know, like for severe maintenance, or when the androids in the Alien series take control of ships and whatnot. If we don't actually get our consciousness or anything, it seems superfluous to have this one as an option.

Near as I can tell, the fourth option appears to depend upon the cognitive ability of individuals. A lot of people are shit at Paint.


Might want to take the time to establish all of your rules in the description, too. As vague as the options are in the OP, they leave a lot to the imagination. The way you're abruptly clarifying ends up portraying the description as a misrepresentation of the choices.
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Posted 1/15/18 , edited 1/15/18
An android? Me? Why not.
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Posted 1/16/18 , edited 1/16/18

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An android? Me? Why not.


You guys are probably thinking about the computer controlled android. Thing is to build an android like David 8 with synthetic neurons would be quite hard. I dunno what they will use to replace the eyeball. And I don't want to wake up feeling like a tv screen.

Now why am I so eager to get android and avatar clones? Because they don't need energy and resources to run. If you live in a cybernetic space. You need energy to power the computer. If you are a free floating magnetic field, you need some device to generate that magnetic field. With an avatar clone or android. Once you are set you can just use battery or eat food. Simple as that.

I mean consciousness is just an electric field within a capacitor. You can feel it in your head right in the center of the brain where the thalamus is I speculate. But people ponder over this question for thousands of years. Having consciousness bond to a physical body. Such is the pain of man kind.

Me, I dunno who the dream people are. Do the majority of people know? I dunno. Do you guys know me? I dunno. And so I leave my hope at the best of work at night. Are they even human? How come they are not revealed?

Every search on Google regarding dream technology seems to lead nowhere. But I have observed a sudden boost in neuronal computational technology on the internet.

In my dream they sort of just graze over my electric field with a sponge, something that soaks up and imprint the neuronal structure. They don't even run it thread by thread. Beats me. When you can transfer consciousness like waving the hand over air, now that is something impressive.
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Posted 1/18/18 , edited 1/18/18
I would prefer to be recreated in a different world. I'll just say that it would be more exciting to learn about another where things don't work quite the same as in the real world I'm in. Not to mention, there's a chance that I'll be able to have superhuman abilities, which just isn't possible through ordinary means. In any case, it would be an amazing experience to learn about other worlds as well.
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Posted 1/18/18 , edited 1/19/18
Option 1, but I'll write myself a comprehensive book containing everything I think I need to retain from lost long-term memory before I make the jump. Continue to do this until the methods for 4 are perfected.
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Posted 1/22/18 , edited 1/22/18
Ya about this, I really dunno who the dream groups are. I'd imagine it to be like selfless where you walk into some kind of lab and boom, I am not against option one though as I believe it can be perfected. Either that or at age 80 before I passed away I'd be like . Again, if you know who they are just walk to the lab and knock on the door. Else you'd be like me , wake up, so we can be young again (Inception). If you know who they are, tell your friends, tell your parents, and remember to bring cash
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Posted 1/22/18 , edited 1/22/18
If I could, it would an Android body. If I would ever do it, I would be dying, lonely, and or willing to try something like that.

Cybernetic Space? No thanks. Not any real reason. Just don't want too.

A human body would be okay. But It's human, an Android body is something new.

Recreated in another world is cool. But, I don't know what is there, and this world is already pretty big.

Cybernetic Space? No thanks. Not any real reason. Just don't want too.
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Posted 1/22/18 , edited 1/23/18
solidly going for another world.

Am i the only person who thinks that they were born in the wrong place or wrong time?
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Posted 1/23/18 , edited 1/23/18
Recreated in another world is pretty good. If it works like Konosuba and I get to keep my memory. If you think of civilization as a pyramid, and you get to be recreated over and over again, I sure hope someone is able to carry us until the end. But that is imagining you have an exponential rate of reaching the end, like running a recursion or letting the genetic algorithm run loose, or traveling into the future. Now if you are ever at this situation I'd think twice before flipping that switch, it's 50 50.
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