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Posted 1/23/18 , edited 1/23/18
I wasn’t with toonami from the jump nor does my recollection from back when I was in middle school help me much at all but I was always under the impression it was an action block. Regardless of how slice of life is received you wouldn’t put non action shows in an action block. Again tho that’s just my impression I’m no toonami historian so I don’t know a ton about the roots/early days.
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I think one of the problems is the cultural differences. In slice of life, you see much more Japanese culture than you usually do in an action, sci-fi, or fantasy series and I think companies don't think audiences would understand. These are the same people who think western audiences wouldn't understand onigiri as rice balls and change them to dumplings or doughnuts instead.
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Commander_PonyShep wrote:

I understand that Toonami is an action block, first and foremost. However, the anime industry is just as much well-known for producing tons of slice-of-life anime as it does action anime.

So how come Toonami never premiered any slice-of-life anime, both during the late 90's/early 2000's, and right now as an Adult Swim Saturday midnight block?


The sad truth is, Toonami/Adult Swim doesn't really LIKE anime--Bandai gave them Cowboy Bebop, and they thought it was cool, and then Pioneer, Bandai, and ADV barged the doors thinking that they would show every series.
Wishful thinking, as pre-Bubble anime companies needed a friend in cable, to pay the bills, and more than a few companies (Funi with Kodocha, among others) groomed their series for CN first, DVD later.

We've never seen a comedy either--unless it's something "edgy" or stoned-out like FLCL, Shin-chan or Super Milk-chan, that "their" Adult Swim audience can understand--we'll never see them show shoujo/romance in our lifetime, Azumanga Daioh or Kemono Friends would get cold puzzled stares, and if they show any anime at all in the 21st cty., they're more interested in showing open-ended fight-serials that can attract permanent regular cult audiences for life. (The cable equivalent of "Binge fans".)
One of the reasons the Lupin III v2 dub is so awful, pottymouthed and snarky-unfunny is that Pioneer had to sell the series to CN as a "raunchy sex comedy" to even remotely get them broadcast-interested in a lighthearted 80's action show that wasn't space-action or supernatural-noir. If you can't sell it to Toonami, try your luck with Swim. And let's not even bring up what Funi did to Sgt. Frog, hoping for "another Shin-chan" on network demand.

CN was friendly to anime for a while...
But somehow, after the two or three years they were stuck showing the Majin Buu saga of DBZ, their "humor" toward the anime fans was starting more and more to gravitate to buried references that they wished said fans would just go away and bother some other network.
(Part of me doesn't blame them, that arc went on freakin' forever, and who didn't want to just strangle the series near the end of it?)
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The sad truth is, Toonami/Adult Swim doesn't really LIKE anime--Bandai gave them Cowboy Bebop, and they thought it was cool, and then Pioneer, Bandai, and ADV barged the doors thinking that they would show every series.
Wishful thinking, as pre-Bubble anime companies needed a friend in cable, to pay the bills, and more than a few companies (Funi with Kodocha, among others) groomed their series for CN first, DVD later.

We've never seen a comedy either--unless it's something "edgy" or stoned-out like FLCL, Shin-chan or Super Milk-chan, that "their" Adult Swim audience can understand--we'll never see them show shoujo/romance in our lifetime, Azumanga Daioh or Kemono Friends would get cold puzzled stares, and if they show any anime at all in the 21st cty., they're more interested in showing open-ended fight-serials that can attract permanent regular cult audiences for life. (The cable equivalent of "Binge fans".)
One of the reasons the Lupin III v2 dub is so awful, pottymouthed and snarky-unfunny is that Pioneer had to sell the series to CN as a "raunchy sex comedy" to even remotely get them broadcast-interested in a lighthearted 80's action show that wasn't space-action or supernatural-noir. If you can't sell it to Toonami, try your luck with Swim. And let's not even bring up what Funi did to Sgt. Frog, hoping for "another Shin-chan" on network demand.

CN was friendly to anime for a while...
But somehow, after the two or three years they were stuck showing the Majin Buu saga of DBZ, their "humor" toward the anime fans was starting more and more to gravitate to buried references that they wished said fans would just go away and bother some other network.
(Part of me doesn't blame them, that arc went on freakin' forever, and who didn't want to just strangle the series near the end of it?)


If Adult Swim didn't like anime, they wouldn't dedicate 5 or 6 hours to it every Saturday night.

As for Comedy, they had Space Dandy, which actually aired on Toonami before it aired in Japan. I am sure Adult Swim had to do some major negotiations to get that to happen. Just because it isn't the type of comedy that you like, doesn't mean it isn't comedy.

Television stations do not run content that they do not want to run. They run content which gets them advertising dollars.
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Slightly off topic I’m actually shocked they haven’t picked up My Hero Academia, pull DBZ Kai off and put MHA there, I actually think something like Miss Kobayashis Dragon Maid could be successful I enjoy the show, there’s a lot more action anime they could sink their teeth into
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Slightly off topic I’m actually shocked they haven’t picked up My Hero Academia, pull DBZ Kai off and put MHA there, I actually think something like Miss Kobayashis Dragon Maid could be successful I enjoy the show, there’s a lot more action anime they could sink their teeth into


And that's probably what you're going to get:
CN is like those new posters who ask "I just watched Cowboy Bebop, what other anime should I watch that has cool, dark space action in it?"
Go ahead, just try and recommend Miss Kobayashi to them.

They may show anime, and they may even think they have some kind of "pulse" on it for being the only cable channel left showing it, but that's not the same as actually being curious about it.
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nate101686 wrote:

Slightly off topic I’m actually shocked they haven’t picked up My Hero Academia, pull DBZ Kai off and put MHA there, I actually think something like Miss Kobayashis Dragon Maid could be successful I enjoy the show, there’s a lot more action anime they could sink their teeth into


why would they pull DBZ Kai off? It and Super are probably their most popular shows, that's why they are the first two shows of the night. Not to mention DBZ Kai the Final Chapter has never aired on American TV before and there are only 21 episodes left.
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nate101686 wrote:

Slightly off topic I’m actually shocked they haven’t picked up My Hero Academia, pull DBZ Kai off and put MHA there, I actually think something like Miss Kobayashis Dragon Maid could be successful I enjoy the show, there’s a lot more action anime they could sink their teeth into


why would they pull DBZ Kai off? It and Super are probably their most popular shows, that's why they are the first two shows of the night. Not to mention DBZ Kai the Final Chapter has never aired on American TV before and there are only 21 episodes left.


Plus if they wait until DBZ Kai is over, they can show three straight seasons of MHA in a row if they pick it up.

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And clearly the answer to this thread is that Toonami is an action block, so why the hell would they show slice of life shows? If someone is looking for an action show, they don't want a boring slice of life show. Especially when Cartoon Network seems dead set on killing off their action shows/blocks.

If you wanted slice of life shows on cable tv, CN/AS are honestly not the place for it. Slice of life doesn't fit any of their key demographics. And sadly, animation is either the realm of children or comedy in the US at large. The chickflick/live action slice of life crowd is the one I've found most resistant to animation as a serious medium for storytelling for adults, so I don't see slice of life anime getting much traction in the US.
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Posted 1/24/18 , edited 1/24/18
For anime fans Slice of Life are fun. I count Genshiken as one of my all time favorite shows, but for the maximum appeal for viewers they just won't play. They can be dry and the slower pace of most of them are a hard sell for a channel trying to get maximum views for their time slot. Slice of Life anime series tend to be something the more involved anime fan tends to get into. A real interest in Japanese culture and life helps make the SoL animes more engaging and fun. For the basic anime fan who just enjoys the animation and action, it can be a hard if not impossible sell.
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