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Posted 2/8/18 , edited 2/8/18
Does it seem like this is a vastly overused criticism to anyone else? Pretty much every anime I've watched, when I look through the comments, there's always like 50+ people saying this. Half the time, it's based solely off of the anime having like one, or two things in common with some other anime. I've quite literally seen people calling character progression "cliche"...
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"Cliche" and "tropey"


way overused phrases.
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Yeah, and I wouldn't even mind them so much, if they were used accurately, but it seems as if they seldom ever are.
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Many story conventions are cliche of Greek fables.


Like geeze, how pedantic do people really want to get with these arguments?
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TRKitsune wrote:

Many story conventions are cliche of Greek fables.


Like geeze, how pedantic do people really want to get with these arguments?


Yeah pretty much. Some people get so broad with that gripe, that you could pretty much call anything "cliche" under their definition.
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people seem to not know the difference between cliche and predictable, but that is just my two cents on the subject
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Many people seem to learn their definition of words from those around them, and would never be caught dead consulting a dictionary. This despite it being easier than ever. (In my youth, one actually had to go find a physical book and look up a word. These days it is as easy as typing "define <word>" into a search engine or saying "<voice assistant>, define <word>").

This means the misuse spreads like a virus, eventually resulting in official definitions being changed or amended, and often increasing dilution of the language.
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It's legit one of the laziest forms of criticism. If someone says something along the lines of "I don't like this because it's cliché," and they add nothing more to that, they're a lousy critic. If you could explain why something being cliché is bad, then great. But being cliché isn't inherently wrong. Clichés and tropes exist for a reason. And with tropes especially, unless you're a creative God, it's now nigh impossible to create a story without using at least a few. The issue isn't using them, but rather how you use them.
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Posted 2/8/18 , edited 2/8/18
Oh look, she fell down because someone stole her panties, and now she spread eagle in front of a man.

You know, something like that hits me as Cliche, it just seems like it happens way more than it should.

Let's be honest here people

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Harem and Moe anime's as well as many Shonen animes are cliche (same old things but in different "shows")

For example: 75% of romance anime's have that one childhood friend who never gets the main character even though she is clearly best girl.

C L I C H E

The anime industry is running out of ideas.

There is an anime this season called Killing Bites which is like a Taco Tattoo 2.0.

Black Clover is a bad version of Naruto

But there are some anime's that are godly, and in their own tiers. For example, Hunter x Hunter 2011.... NOT CLICHE 1 BIT.... AND ITS A SHONEN... WOAW

In conclusion, I believe Moe is killing anime.



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Posted 2/8/18 , edited 2/8/18

Powder710 wrote:

Does it seem like this is a vastly overused criticism to anyone else? Pretty much every anime I've watched, when I look through the comments, there's always like 50+ people saying this. Half the time, it's based solely off of the anime having like one, or two things in common with some other anime.


Then again, when a character accidentally bumps into a girl, and discovers, with a squeeze, where his hands are...
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Posted 2/8/18 , edited 2/8/18

Ejanss wrote:


Powder710 wrote:

Does it seem like this is a vastly overused criticism to anyone else? Pretty much every anime I've watched, when I look through the comments, there's always like 50+ people saying this. Half the time, it's based solely off of the anime having like one, or two things in common with some other anime.


Then again, when a character accidentally bumps into a girl, and discovers, with a squeeze, where his hands are...

Ah, the accidental pervert.
Still, that's a perfect setup for breaking the tired routine if both of them just react rationally to the accident instead of him getting slapped.

It's all in how you use your staple building blocks.
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Posted 2/8/18 , edited 2/8/18
"Steal from one source, it's plagerism. Steal from 100 sources, it's research."
The problem with the abuse of the word cliche in critiques is they provide no context. For example I've seen many a comment about Blcak Clover being a rip off of Naruto. Not once have I ever seen anyone (mind you I ain't lookin') expand on that. Asta is a "blonde" loud mouth obnoxious brat who wants to be the nations leader so everyone will recognize him; and his rival is a stoic brunette who everyone recognizes as the heir apparent. Was that so hard? NOTE: I dropped Black Clover after four episodes so I have to ask, Is that where the similarities end when comparing the two? They say it's cliche hoping you'll agree with them (justifying their world view and making themselves feel like an innovative leader) without anyone challenging their perspective or even asking them to justify their stance.

The next time you hear"It's cliche" ask them what they are basing that on. 50 wulongs say they don't have a real answer.
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Reminds me of the late nineties when everything was "ironic" without having a clue what it actually meant. Including Alanis Morissette whose song "Ironic" ironically didn't contain any irony.
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Posted 2/8/18 , edited 2/8/18
Yea and it's very annoying. I get it. You think this show is bad and want to say why with the least words possible cause you are lazy, but using it's just so cliche makes your comment completely irrelevant. Like you say Black Clover is full of cliches and takes from Naruto, but Naruto is full of cliches and takes from Dragonball and HxH AND THEN Dragonball is basically super inspired by the Journey to the west story. You see, everything can be traced back to something else. Please use something else for why you dislike something.
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