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Posted 2/9/18 , edited 2/10/18
We can always count on the people with a problem with social justice out themselves at the drop of a picklehaube.
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cyberfaust wrote:

I find this very distressing, partly because of the milkshake ducking, but also because Nazism has very serious potential for harm. With a spotlight recently on Neo-Nazi activity in the U.S., and online, I increasingly can't shrug off this kind of thing.

I do care about his political opinions. I want to know, why is this guy a Neo-Nazi? Why hasn't this ideology lost its ability to sway people? Why does it have appeal for Japanese people, who are probably not going to have any contact with Jews at all in their lives?
How many other Japanese people in the manga/anime industry have Nazi sympathies? I'd wager a few more.
How deep does this dangerous stupidity run?


I find it disturbing too and surprising...since Japanese are usually polite and all. But I guess me...and others...aren't too pressed about this since it's the director and not the mangaka themselves?

Maybe Trump should hire him for some US/Japan shit
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yeah, im sorry, but i dont care. its a good show. end of story for me.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

I think the current trend of getting disgusted with a creator's character and throwing out all his[/her] work as a result is toxic and ultimately limiting.


Hey there papa. Been a while ain't it. "LAWL"

Anyways, this comment. Just this comment.
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MadeDragon wrote:

We can always count on the people with a problem with social justice out themselves at the drop of a picklehaube.


I can't comment for anybody else -- but I can say my own personal issue with the SJ movement is tyranny. As in: tyrannical suppression is the ultimate endgame -- It's the new Marxism/Communism. I'm sure some truly well-meaning individuals (ie: useful idiots) exist, but overall, the movement hates everybody and everything. It is a naked power grab under the paper-thin disguise of "defending the oppressed" (which is exactly what Marxism/Communism is). Already you see how many people aren't "oppressed" (read: virtuous) enough to "deserve" protection: asians, gay men and poor whites. Of course you wouldn't be able to see that if you only take in the propaganda created by the "Ministry of Truth".

In my opinion the SJW type of neo-communists are just as abhorrent as the neo-nazi types represented by the director dude here. And both extremes feed off of perceived "victimhood" as justification for tyranny and oppression (of whomever they don't like)... For the neo-nazis it is the Jews who supposedly rule the world and keep them suppressed, for the neo-communist SJW's it is the white male colonialist patriarchy who supposedly rules the world and keeps them suppressed. Different targets of blame, but the same corrupt power grab in the end.
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There are plenty of people with their own opinions, what matters is if they act upon them rather than simply having them.
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cyberfaust wrote:

I find this very distressing, partly because of the milkshake ducking, but also because Nazism has very serious potential for harm. With a spotlight recently on Neo-Nazi activity in the U.S., and online, I increasingly can't shrug off this kind of thing.

I do care about his political opinions. I want to know, why is this guy a Neo-Nazi? Why hasn't this ideology lost its ability to sway people? Why does it have appeal for Japanese people, who are probably not going to have any contact with Jews at all in their lives?
How many other Japanese people in the manga/anime industry have Nazi sympathies? I'd wager a few more.
How deep does this dangerous stupidity run?


You wanna be careful where you get your info from. This 'Neo nazi' label you mention is used quite frequently by social justice warriors to label anyone who has a different or opposing opinion to them. That said if you actually look into charlottesville or unite the right you will actually see that antifa (the people supposingly opposing facism) were as if not more violent than anyone else. Also the fact that they struck first from quite a few sources. The problem is if you just look at what the media tell you then you aren't really researching since most of the current media outlets worship the ground sjw's stand on... look at gamergate and what happened with that. As long as he doesn't post his views in the anime why does anyone care? we only watch the anime we don't know him personally so why does it matter? Although the minute anyone mentions 'neo nazis' to the political left you get a hysterical witchhunt anyway. Interesting fact a list of people called 'nazis' at the moment is very long, for example Jordan peterson .. a completly sane guy branded by the SJW's as a nazi because guess why? He does not advocate having to use pronouns people tell him to use and does not support feminism... go figure.
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Ok? The director and his work are separate. So even bringing up that this guy worked on a particular show in relation to his unrelated twitter comments seems like a call for moral outrage from fans of the show that don't share this director's views. That is asinine. Even if the director and his work weren't separate I don't think it should be disallowed for someone to have and express their views, whatever they are. Someone can deny the holocaust and I can choose not to believe their denial and am allowed to express that. Everyone gets to say what they think, even if they are wrong.

Some folks have mentioned that this guy is the director and not someone more central to the creation of the story and while I see the point being made I don't think it is relevant. I don't think it matters if the author of a story has bigoted opinions. I am going to judge their work separate from that. If those bigoted views show themselves in the text itself, that is fine too, I am just less likely then to agree with the text or find merit in it.

tldr: freedom of expression is important for society if you want it to contain free thinkers.
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This isn't even an issue of separating the story from the creator. He's not the creator of the story, nor is he the sole force behind the anime. It doesn't take away from the art, the animation, the voice actors and the manga.

Put me in the camp of "who the hell cares" too.
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xBludgeoningAngelx wrote:

You wanna be careful where you get your info from. This 'Neo nazi' label you mention is used quite frequently by social justice warriors to label anyone who has a different or opposing opinion to them. That said if you actually look into charlottesville or unite the right you will actually see that antifa (the people supposingly opposing facism) were as if not more violent than anyone else. Also the fact that they struck first from quite a few sources. The problem is if you just look at what the media tell you then you aren't really researching since most of the current media outlets worship the ground sjw's stand on... look at gamergate and what happened with that. As long as he doesn't post his views in the anime why does anyone care? we only watch the anime we don't know him personally so why does it matter? Although the minute anyone mentions 'neo nazis' to the political left you get a hysterical witchhunt anyway. Interesting fact a list of people called 'nazis' at the moment is very long, for example Jordan peterson .. a completly sane guy branded by the SJW's as a nazi because guess why? He does not advocate having to use pronouns people tell him to use and does not support feminism... go figure.

While you do have a point re: Jordan Peterson and many others that are falsely accused -- be careful not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater".

This director dude goes beyond a mere skeptic and well into (at the very least) Nazi-sympathizer. I think Jordan Peterson himself would be the first to say that "calling a spade a spade" is needful -- after all one of his major principles is "tell the truth". He is just as much (if not more so) against Nazis (or Fascists as he would call them) as he is against Communists (or he would say Marxists)... both are ultimately just twin derivative forks off of the same Post-Modernist philosophy/viewpoint and therefore diametrically opposed to individual freedom and rights.
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i was not commenting on the director of the anime just on one of the previous posters 'insights into neo nazism' and commenting that nazi has lost quite a lot of meaning because sjw's just throw it out at anyone who disagrees with them. i couldn't care less however what opinions the guy has as long as he does not do anything im cool with whatever and don't really care.
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This 'boycott' or drive him out of work attitude because he has an unpopular opinion is one of the things i detest about SJW's they do it all the time.
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Why does it have appeal for Japanese people
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The director's personal views haven't apparently impacted the work, he is only one member of a larger creative team that shouldn't be collectively held responsible for his views, though he is entitled to hold those views they are nevertheless repugnant, and everyone is equally entitled to the opinion that his views are repugnant.
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