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They're replacing them with amateur racing winners? As some sort of "reward"?
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"Formula 1 considers the time spent by teams and drivers on the grid before a race as one of celebration, where guests and various performers can add to the glamour and spectacle of the Grand Prix, enabling promoters and partners to showcase their countries and products."
So if performers can be there does this just mean that grid girls are only going away in name only? and if they call call themselves performers instead they can still be here? I am so confused
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They just need to make the grid girls into spokewomen for any product. Have the girls give interviews and talk about the products they or the team are endorsing
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gornotck wrote:

They're replacing them with amateur racing winners? As some sort of "reward"?


That's actually really cool. The kids get free tickets to these expensive races and have a pretty cool experience. They get rewarded for racing well whereas the girls get rewarded for being beautiful.
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gornotck wrote:

They're replacing them with amateur racing winners? As some sort of "reward"?


That's actually really cool. The kids get free tickets to these expensive races and have a pretty cool experience. They get rewarded for racing well whereas the girls get rewarded for being beautiful.


It makes sense, in a way, and it could keep younger racers involved. My real concern is that it's the same sort of thing as when they went to milk in the winner's circle. A small, unnecessary change to appease a small, vocal group of people.

People are really upset about this, and the direction it's going.
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gornotck wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


gornotck wrote:

They're replacing them with amateur racing winners? As some sort of "reward"?


That's actually really cool. The kids get free tickets to these expensive races and have a pretty cool experience. They get rewarded for racing well whereas the girls get rewarded for being beautiful.


It makes sense, in a way, and it could keep younger racers involved. My real concern is that it's the same sort of thing as when they went to milk in the winner's circle. A small, unnecessary change to appease a small, vocal group of people.

People are really upset about this, and the direction it's going.


That they are nerfing it and "think of the children"? Yeah I can understand that criticism since the sport has always been ultimate expression of masculinity and vice. Motorsport in general is incredibly dangerous so PR/PC should be the last thing on the minds of race organizers. Theses racers are putting their lives on the line so having them be surrounded by girls and drink like modern day Vikings should be okay, right? Personally I don't mind either way, but I know sponsors have a lot of money tied up in this sport and hate criticism and the dreaded news report highlighting their chauvinistic ways.
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They should replace grid girls with grid boys
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Potentsaliva wrote:

They should replace grid girls with grid boys


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Potentsaliva wrote:

They should replace grid girls with grid boys


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MysticGon wrote:
Theses racers are putting their lives on the line so having them be surrounded by girls and drink like modern day Vikings should be okay, right?


Er, no? F1 is really safe. There are *tons* of safety features inherent in an F1 vehicle. I mean they went 20 years without a single fatality. So no one is putting their lives on the line here and even if they were women aren't a prize anyone has any right too.

Seriously though, you were probably in more danger on your way to work this morning than an F1 driver is on the track. They can spin into a wall at 140 mp/h and walk out of a 600 degree fire ( the drivers wear the same stuff as firefighters ). You, comparatively, would simply be smeared by a bus. >.>



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MysticGon wrote:
Theses racers are putting their lives on the line so having them be surrounded by girls and drink like modern day Vikings should be okay, right?


Er, no? F1 is really safe. There are *tons* of safety features inherent in an F1 vehicle. I mean they went 20 years without a single fatality. So no one is putting their lives on the line here and even if they were women aren't a prize anyone has any right too.

Seriously though, you were probably in more danger on your way to work this morning than an F1 driver is on the track. They can spin into a wall at 140 mp/h and walk out of a 600 degree fire ( the drivers wear the same stuff as firefighters ). You, comparatively, would simply be smeared by a bus. >.>





You can question the inherent risk of going round in a topless knee-high 200mph+ racecar if you want. I won't stop you.
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You can question the inherent risk of going round in a topless knee-high 200mph+ racecar if you want. I won't stop you.


You're not even allowed in the race car in the first place unless it and you comply to a phone book's worth of safety regulations. Sure, some random unqualified jackass is going to be a danger to himself but that's true for many things. But I mean 7 fatalities in the past 24 years and none for the 20 years before that.

Then out of those 7 fatalities, 1 was an unfortunate fluke ( the car hit a tractor crane ), 3 were not modern F1 ( they were racing vehicles from the 60's-70's without the modern safety features ), 2 were driver error ( 1 guy even knew his car was damaged and refused to pit stop ) and 1 actually had a heart attack and died at the wheel before the crash.

Sure, there's an inherent risk. There's an inherent risk to most sports. Heck, equestrian kills and injures way more people than F1 does ( and indeed more than most sports period ). But no one's rushing to treat the guys in riding pants like Vikings.

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MysticGon wrote:
You can question the inherent risk of going round in a topless knee-high 200mph+ racecar if you want. I won't stop you.


You're not even allowed in the race car in the first place unless it and you comply to a phone book's worth of safety regulations. Sure, some random unqualified jackass is going to be a danger to himself but that's true for many things. But I mean 7 fatalities in the past 24 years and none for the 20 years before that.

Then out of those 7 fatalities, 1 was an unfortunate fluke ( the car hit a tractor crane ), 3 were not modern F1 ( they were racing vehicles from the 60's-70's without the modern safety features ), 2 were driver error ( 1 guy even knew his car was damaged and refused to pit stop ) and 1 actually had a heart attack and died at the wheel before the crash.

Sure, there's an inherent risk. There's an inherent risk to most sports. Heck, equestrian kills and injures way more people than F1 does ( and indeed more than most sports period ). But no one's rushing to treat the guys in riding pants like Vikings.



A wheel coming off and hitting someone on the head (which has happened before) is all it takes. Are the cars safer than before, yes. Fans too? Absolutely. But as you graciously acknowledge there is still the risk.

As for your comparison to horse racing. Okay.
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MysticGon wrote:
A wheel coming off and hitting someone on the head (which has happened before) is all it takes. Are the cars safer than before, yes. Fans too? Absolutely. But as you graciously acknowledge there is still the risk.

As for your comparison to horse racing. Okay.


Honestly, I think F1 has injured more fans than racers? I know I've heard of a news story or two where a tire flying off into the crowd has injured numerous people.

As for equestrian, yes, I know how it sounds but oddly enough it's true. It seems putting your life in the hooves of a easily spooked animal that large is pretty dangerous. It even accounts for more brain injuries than any other sport. Twice as many as even football. It's a long way to the ground from the back of a horse and there is no seat belt.

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