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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/21/18
Why is it impossible to so many fucking animes on this site? I can't watch tokyo ghoul, opm, Seven deadly sins and many other less popular animes on this site. But when I go to [site that shall not be named] to watch I can find literally every single anime out there?

Legit makes me so angry that I pay for a memebership on this site and then get screwed over because of either the cencorship or just not being able to watch the serie all togheter?

It makes me so confused to why this is? Can someone please explain to me or link me in a direction where I can read more about why this site is trash compared to the other F R E E streaming sites?


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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18

Kallzor123 wrote:

Why is it impossible to so many fucking animes on this site? I can't watch tokyo ghoul, opm, Seven deadly sins and many other less popular animes on this site. But when I go to [site that shall not be named] to watch I can find literally every single anime out there?

Legit makes me so angry that I pay for a memebership on this site and then get screwed over because of either the cencorship or just not being able to watch the serie all togheter?

It makes me so confused to why this is? Can someone please explain to me or link me in a direction where I can read more about why this site is trash compared to the other F R E E streaming sites?


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This is about disks, but the same principles apply for streaming licenses.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2018-01-12/.126338

Basically, pirates don't pay license fees. It's easy when you don't have to bother with legalities...

Having said that, I predict this thread will disappear in short order, because you can't mention pirate sites by name here...
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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18
If the tiny membership fee is too much for you to bear then you shouldn't pay it, don't complain about it and continue to pay like a peasant. The reason CR is limited in its selection is because every anime on here is legally licensed. Free Streaming sites are not legally licensed and therefore can contain much more selection- because they do not pay for the right to stream the show. Also, CR has options above 480p which is what most free streaming sites do not have.

Most free streaming sites contain massive virus carrying ads or popups. CR is a secondary anime site for me anyways, it's not like I could have watched the 11,000 episodes on my watch list if I only used CR.
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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18
You seem new to this:

1. You can't mention or name drop illegal streaming websites on here. In fact this thread will probably be taken down by mods very soon.
2. The reason why CR can't have everything is because the licenses they have to obtain is not free. In fact real money, real benjamins have to be spent to legally acquire shows, something that thieving scums like illegal websites you mention don't give a shit about.
3. Why bother using CR if you're just going to pirate (steal) shows and try to justify it's better?

Put yourself in this scenario:
If you owned a business, a business you want to sustain and grow and you're trying to sell products that you spend millions of dollars for it to not sell well because some dipshit stole your products and is giving it away for free, how would you feel?
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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18

Kallzor123 wrote:

Why is it impossible to so many fucking animes on this site? I can't watch tokyo ghoul, opm, Seven deadly sins and many other less popular animes on this site. But when I go to [site that shall not be named] to watch I can find literally every single anime out there?

Legit makes me so angry that I pay for a memebership on this site and then get screwed over because of either the cencorship or just not being able to watch the serie all togheter?

It makes me so confused to why this is? Can someone please explain to me or link me in a direction where I can read more about why this site is trash compared to the other F R E E streaming sites?


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I've edited the thread title and your post -- naming sites which provide access to content they don't have rights for is against CR's Site Rules. I've also moved the thread to the "Advice, Info, Recommendations forum since it's a request for information.

As stated by others, other sites that seem to have "everything" haven't paid for what they offer or provide access to. It's essentially stolen goods. CR has less because they have negotiated for and paid for the content they provide, and revenue from ads and subscriptions support the actual owners of the content.

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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18
Then I understand the deal here. Thank you.
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lnatev wrote:


Most free streaming sites contain massive virus carrying ads or popups. CR is a secondary anime site for me anyways, it's not like I could have watched the 11,000 episodes on my watch list if I only used CR.



What do you use as first hand then?
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What about the censor ship? Why is there not an option to watch the series uncensored?
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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18

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What about the censor ship? Why is there not an option to watch the series uncensored?


If it is a simulcast series then CR will get the version that was broadcast on Japanese TV, which has to conform with Japanese broadcast rules. If the series is an older title then CR will often obtain the DVD/Blu-Ray version which is uncensored. CR will sometimes replace a simulcast version with the DVD version if they obtain it later on.

The pirate sites often copy from the DVDs and stream that version but you are still ripping off the studio and not helping them create new shows.
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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/20/18
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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/26/18
its a competition between other sites. Those two listed are on other legit sties in the USA, You just can't find them all on one site. Also depending on your region effect what you can and can't watch. Crunchy is pretty good about multi regions but the other site need to work on that.

I do wish there was a small company that would pick up all the loose old crap that isn't available anywhere but there probably isn't any profit in that. Overall the days of shady sites is over imo. Long over. There is no need to take for free when you can support for free.

Edit: is there a place like because.moe but it is just a catalog of links? rather than searching? If not there needs to be that.
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
MidoriNoTora is correct on broadcast vs. disc rights censorship.

To elaborate though: Censorship is useful for the studios, it's not only about broadcast legality.

Many people will object/complain about certain types of content in a show that airs in Japan, like anywhere else. Censoring it for broadcast prevents a lot of complaints.

For production issues, sometimes it legitimately takes a lot more time and resources to animate certain types of scenes in the quality the makers want. For example, if a show is limited on budget and artists, they may prefer to air a censored version of gruesome violence, because the level of detail they want to show is just not possible in time. If they rushed the art, it would look terrible and not have impact. So, they save those scenes for later, when they can re-do them for the disc release.

The primary reason though is money. The industry has learned that they make much more money from disc sales than airwave broadcast. To encourage those disc sales, they make the discs a little more appealing by adding "improved scenes," or often just taking away censor fog and light rays that were present on the broadcast version. The on-air version is essentially a free teaser for the disc.
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There are many reasons why most loyal anime fans rather watch anime illegally, then to watch them on CR.

1) CR is over flowing with ads on their episodes. CR puts 6 to 10 ads per one 20 minute episode. Thats insane. Why do you think Netflix doesn't put ads on their streaming content? Because everyone hates ads, but most people can tolerate them if they are not overflowing with ads. CR on the other hand, puts so many ads on their anime episodes, and its not like they are spread out. I remember watching a Dragon Ball Super episode and about 45 seconds into the episode I got an Ad, then different ads kept playing one after another, it was 4 ads back to back to back, and that was just the first 45 seconds of the episode. Now that is ridiculous

2) To run a successful business like this, you have to give people a better service that they can't get for free. Right now you can go to any one of those free streaming sites, and almost every one of them offer a way better service then CR, and they are FREE. Yeah, most of them are flooded with ads, but that is what an Ad Blocker is for, and/or a No-Script plugin for your browser. And they don't embed ads directly into the video player to force the end-user watch them like CR does. And if you use an Ad Blocker or NoScript on CR, you cannot watch the video. Which is another reason why people choose Free Streaming Sites.

3) The lack of selection at CR. Yeah, I know all about getting the Streaming Rights to Anime. But that doesn't change the fact that people can go to a free site to watch any Anime series they want, Anime series that are not on CR.

So why would someone pay money to get less content and forced to watch 6 to 10 ads per episode, when they can go to a free site and get much much more? And please don't tell me that they pay CR to support their favorite anime series, because i highly doubt these anime series are seeing any royalties from CR.

But that is just my two sense. I use to be a CR customer a while back, under a different account. But then I realized CR just wasn't worth it to me. But thats just me. I don't mean to bash CR or anything like that, thats not my intention, far from it. I love Anime, I like Anime better then most if not ALL live action movies or tv shows filmed in America. The Japanese put all of their passion and dedication in their artwork, and they don't let real world politics influence their work, unlike most TV shows in America. And I was born and raised in the USA by the way, and I do love my country. I just hate my countries TV Shows, and how they ruin every tv show they make because they put their own personal politics into their work. But that is a discussion for another time. lol.
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Posted 3/24/18 , edited 3/24/18

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So why would someone pay money to get less content and forced to watch 6 to 10 ads per episode, when they can go to a free site and get much much more? And please don't tell me that they pay CR to support their favorite anime series, because i highly doubt these anime series are seeing any royalties from CR.


If you pay for a subscription, just like Netflix there are no ads in the videos. Netflix does not offer a "free with ads" service at all.

CR pays half of your subscription fee (and ad revenue if you don't sub, for that matter) directly to the publisher who supplies them with the shows you directly watch, apportioned by the ratio of time each was watched.

It's easy to be a site providing pirate links when absolutely nothing of the ad revenue they make goes back to the content providers, and for that matter the resources to actually stream the video doesn't come out of their pockets, either, so yes, licensing and actually hosting content is the pertinent issue here.
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Posted 3/24/18 , edited 3/24/18
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