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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/9/18
meh, its always been "mediocre"
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Sorry I only watch Gigguk's videos.
Maybe some TheAnimeMan and Akidearest too.

The others are either too boring, biased, or get too political and serious. I want entertainment, not read the news.
I heard Digibro is despicable. More reason to avoid his videos.
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Old head takes are my least favorite out of any kind of takes. As a big sports fan you hear constant old head takes especially regarding the NBA. So tiring. Even on here you see threads questioning how anime is going in the trash in pretty frequent intervals. Times change. Just live your best life. (You don’t have to be old to have an old head take either.)
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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/8/18
I was looking if this existed.

Overall he was saying what I was thinking 75% ish. Now I'm not as old and angry as to want things to be like the 90's or something. Technology advances animations changes and CGI is everywhere but overall I also know theirs many anime that are shoved out to make a buck but dang not everything has to be a Cowboy Bebop. Anime fans are ELITISTS and HATE anything mediocre I agree but that's not me ( dont believe me lol ) I do like most anime nowadays but I'm not A Japanese fanboy who loves all the loli garbage that comes out like K-on(even though digi likes this show I sure as hell hate it) moe and music. Moe and loli little girl animes who are ancient ships or reincarnations or whatever will not distract me as they are trash in my eyes, anything cute and with a kid apparently are way to numerous just to get guaranteed views and sales, I agree ANIME CREATORS ARE NOT TAKING ENOUGH RISKS!

Repeating backgrounds, bad music, awful lighting, another k-on rip off, terrible animes made with bad cgi, my standards are low but I have them. I know some anime nowadays kinda sucks but I unlike digi I haven''t seen that many anime in the 80s-90s so I'm not really all that mad. I'm open to pretty much anything now even though in the past I refused 100% to watch specific anime type genres. (sports, music etc)

Don't believe me? I'm looking forward to more Megalo Box, a sports anime. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-04/crunchyroll-adds-megalobox-anime-simulcast/.129933



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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/9/18
Oh, he some anime elitist youtuber? Nothing new then.
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Ryulightorb wrote:Anime fans are ELITISTS and HATE anything mediocre that doesn't bring something new sometimes it's nice to have a mediocre show that brings nothing new to the table but is just nice.............but Anime fans will bitch whenever that happens.


Also happens in just about every aggregate movie review (e.g. rotten tomatoes).
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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/8/18

DevinKuska wrote:

So I just watched the video. I don't know who the author of the video is, but I am now keenly aware of a few facts based on what he said

#1 The author of the video watched anime in the 80's/90's and is bitter nobody makes the stuff he liked

#2 The author doesn't know how to run a business

#3 The author is bitter towards youtube and should seek professional help

#4 The author assumes that since 100% of anime he watches doesn't fit his criteria that the industry is to blame.

#5 The author erroneously thinks the anime gives a f**k what he thinks as a non Japanese consumer.

Who is this guy? Does he have the most basic of basic grasps on how business models run? IDK this is the first time I believe I have seen this author but 95% of what he said leads me to believe he's an idiot throwing temper tantrums.


Exactly this, us American's are ignored so those elitists anime reviewers on YouTube needs to seriously know their damn place. I see a trend not only in the anime creations in the recent years the basement dwelling half-drunk and half-high reviewers who are now 30+ years old who have been watching anime since 1998 complains that anime nowadays are not like it used to be? Well no shit, its 2018 and things change and nobody ever cared what they said or even knew they existed.

Not only all that these YouTubers who's JOB is YouTube are starting to make me sick and tired of their campaign against that very site. Sadly nobody actually cares. They should literally move on with life.

Anime is not some sacred gift from the heavens (hear me out :p IKR ) that if it disappears the world would end. All this really is not that big of a deal! Its not ozone layer dissapearing, war with North Korea, or terrorism. NOBODY CARES OTHER THAN OTAKUS AND WEEBS ABOUT ANIME. People need to chill, omg. ( And I need to obviously chill too )

No Offense Just Sayin
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Posted 4/9/18 , edited 4/9/18
The problem is that y’all are taking anitubers srsly in the first place
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Utter nonsense.

Been watching anime for over 20 years and it took that long for a near masterpiece TV series like Violet Evergarden to happen.

I want a Violet figure. I don't care if it costs $500.
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DevinKuska wrote:

So I just watched the video. I don't know who the author of the video is, but I am now keenly aware of a few facts based on what he said

#1 The author of the video watched anime in the 80's/90's and is bitter nobody makes the stuff he liked

#2 The author doesn't know how to run a business

#3 The author is bitter towards youtube and should seek professional help

#4 The author assumes that since 100% of anime he watches doesn't fit his criteria that the industry is to blame.

#5 The author erroneously thinks the anime gives a f**k what he thinks as a non Japanese consumer.

Who is this guy? Does he have the most basic of basic grasps on how business models run? IDK this is the first time I believe I have seen this author but 95% of what he said leads me to believe he's an idiot throwing temper tantrums.

This post hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. When Digibro's video started popping up non-stop in my related videos, my first thought was, "there's some alarmist clickbait if I've ever seen it." Now that I've blown time listening to it while cleaning? I'm thinking, "there's some alarmist clickbait if I've ever heard it."

Seriously though, while I do think think that anime as a medium has faced some troubling trends in production and (in some cases) originality of concept recently, these are just problems that anime has faced throughout its history. Personally, this video came off to me more as an attempt (however direct or indirect) on the creator's part to mass-shame anime watchers based off of his own dissatisfaction with recent series through the pointing out of some already obvious problems that the medium is facing.

EDIT: One more thing, being able to create a terse statement using pretentious wording doesn't automatically make one's opinion "correct," and accompanying it with a bulky 26+ minute video doesn't automatically validate it either. Like I said, there are some legitimate points buried in here, but Digibro's hyper self-righteousness in this video went above and beyond superseding any substantive arguments he presented.
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I enjjoyed anime in the 90s, i enjoyed anime in the 10s - i like what i like, dont watch what i dont... never felt need to overthink current state of anime. My only routine grumples are less deteriating state of anime and more a trademark "all these school kids being school kids shows, wheres the seinen shows Japan?" esp given indeed were getting more anime than ever.

Not interested in youtuber rants.
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I haven't been watching anime since forever so I can't say about 80's, 90's, or whatever. Is there mediocrity in anime? Certainly, without a doubt. I don't even need to see whoever this guy is' video to know that. And a lot of it. Is there also some good animes being made? Most certainly. Though we may differ on which are good and which exactly constitute the mediocre.

But I have been reading books since forever, and you can find the exact same thing there. Pick your genre. Mystery- some good stuff being written and whole lot of mediocre stuff as well. Fantasy- the same thing. Especially these days when self-publishing makes it easier for people to put books out there that really shouldn't be. At least not before they had been through an editorial process- for plot reasons as well.
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Posted 4/9/18 , edited 4/9/18
I initially wrote a lot more, but it was way too mean. An amended version will suffice:

I almost never watch these videos when people post them, because I know beforehand that they're stupid. This time I did, because I was rankled: Digibro is a YouTube anime critic, a perpetually-baked college dropout who apparently lives off his Patreon. He doesn't know the first thing about criticism, given that his account of anime's history completely fails every test put by a real historical criticism and puts so much stock in individual intent. Real critics have better things to do than make YouTube content. Hearing people whine about how this guy is elitist because he accurately assessed their situation makes me want to vomit. Get over yourselves; anime is mediocre, you like mediocrity, and apparently so does Digibro when it comes to analysis. If you want to signal to the world that you like something more valuable, put in the work.
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Posted 4/9/18 , edited 4/9/18
I just disagree / yes there are medicore shows but if anything there is a lot of really high quakitly anime being produced on a equal or maybe even better scale .

We just had great cutting anime Made in Abyss / Land of the Lustrous / Girls Last Tour / and just this winter A Place Further Than the Universe and Violet Evergarden

If anything there is too much anime and you should be able to pick good shows and shows you like

Everybody has their favorites but I grew from Cartoon Network / Anime on Demand with no streaning until much later so yes there are classics / junk from then just as now
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The main reason why there are lots of mediocre anime is because the industry doesn't want to take risks.

Animation and storytelling are both related. If a studio picks up an anime with good story but they aren't sure it'll be enough, they won't put much money on it, as result the quality will go down but it still sells. (Miss Kobayashi something could be an example)

Now, when they see a show has potencial to be great, they will invest as much as they can on it. As a result, when both story and animation have great quality the anime sells a lot and blow the audience. But it rarely occurs.

So, what we have are many not-so-good anime that maintain the industry alive and sometimes a great one which gives a lot of profit.

Also, we can't compare this to older times when the only reason anime were made was to be broadcasted on tv and only depended on audience to give profit.
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