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Posted 6/18/18 , edited 6/18/18
Veteran Affairs nursing homes apparently drug veterans to the point they look more dead than the zombies from the Walking Dead, don't have the security in place to stop patients with dementia from wondering out of the facility, and show zero empathy when a veteran shows signs of severe malnutrition. A Veteran Affairs doctor told his patient that a trauma wound the size of a golf ball in a veteran's leg was "nothing to worry about", and another one misdiagnosed a veteran with back sprain, which turned out to be a severe bacterial infection that left the patient with permanent bone, tissue and nerve damage. The veteran affairs doctors refuse to conduct a simple blood test and scoff at requests for an MRI scan. They are now dodging damages from malpractice and neglect by abusing a loophole in the system.
Apparently, there is an internal performance metric, but they did not make it public until recently, after repeated inquiries by the press. They blame the Obama administration for not authorizing the release of data to the public. (i.e. passing the blame)

i dont know how veterans from other countries are treated, but I suspect they treat veterans with more respect and empathy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/17/secret-va-nursing-home-ratings-hide-poor-quality-care/674829002/
http://www.cbs8.com/story/38409269/va-uses-loophole-to-deny-marine-vets-malpractice-claim
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tell me about me, when my dad got an honorable discharge some time back, it took him forever to get treatment and when he finally did he had to have two back surgeries, the second they put in plates because the medicine they prescribed him deteriorated his bones so bad they pretty much are paste, if he breaks a bone he's pretty much screwed. this is a life long side effect to whatever they gave him, they never disclosed nor shared the medicine. whatever it was, it pretty much kept him from working. then came trying to get money, goodness that took forever to get "change". about half of what he was making when he was in service, if not less. no wonder those on the base always said don't come back alive wounded, at least dead your family will be taken care of. America doesn't care for the vets, they are happy for their service and happy they served, but coming back alive you're treated like garbage, and who knows they could be experimenting on them with something.

if people state they care, then like my quick story, or the stories in this post, including other countless forgotten vets, then get out there and demand from your government to fix the problem. enough complaining and sending... and don't forget nothing can be heard louder than voting. vets aren't criminals so why are they sometimes treated worse than how America treats criminals? criminals get room, board, healthcare... vets get jack squat and when they do cases like this post transpire then they are tossed out to fend for themselves resulting in PTSD and other factors to take place. give them medicine, give them pot, but don't give them treatment and therapy that'll be just wrong, but then question the moment they go on a shooting/killing spree. also, so many homeless people are vets as well... poor things, even if my dad wasn't in the military I'd still care and try to do my best to help out, giving some time to clinics to give out free food/clothing, to simply listen to them, going to shelters and helping out with food/clothing and listening. they aren't monsters...
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Posted 6/18/18 , edited 6/19/18
It takes VA forever to give my dad the medicine he needs, and when he does get it from them, they often give him wrong medicine. He had one surgery that was scheduled that they changed without giving him much of a notice about. He had to go to another hospital instead, and if he wouldn't have gone to the other hospital and had the surgery done immediately, he wouldn't be alive. (they had to clean his stomach out) It's a really sad thing, A lot of the veteran's who don't receive help end up committing suicide though. It's like the Govt. only cares about the soldiers when they're in a combat zone, when they get home they're treated like garbage.
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VA Care has been terrible since it's inception. I had an uncle that suffered from major PTSD symptoms and was a hardcore alcoholic. He was talked into checking into a VA hospital to detox before he could go to a rehab facility, long story short he had a seizure and fell from his bed (which he should have been strapped into, with the rails up) and hit his head; causing major trauma. They didn't respond to resuscitate for 30 minutes and when they did they waited until they could find a resident in training to preform it. He ended up brain-dead in a coma for 12 years before he finally died.

To them he was just alcoholic trash.
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Posted 6/21/18 , edited 6/21/18
Vets like myself have been saying roll vetrans healthcare into medicare for deccades. Kick all those gvmnt union employees to the curb and let vets choose a private healthcare providor. The VA is the definition of gvmnt waste and corruption. We could make medicare solvent again and allow vets choice. No more 1 year+ waits for care while union shits cook the books to hide the actual numbers. No more 100.mile tripps to the nearest va hospitol only to hear "sorry sir your appointment has been rescheduled and we do not have your medications in the pharmacy. You are free to pay out of pocket for those meds but, the gvmnt is not responsible to reimburse you. Have a nice day and thank you for your service". Never mind that pos gets damn near or more every week than the $1,000/mo that disabled vet gets.
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I could believe this since the governments of Canada and USA are mocking the efforts of their soldiers to bring liberty to the world by imprisoning the indigenous children in slavery and terrorism. The allied soldiers endure gun wounds and death to stop the Nazi and expose the Holocaust, but their governments still continue the genocidal prison camps that were called "residential schools" and that were adopted in Nazi Germany as death camps. Even worse, the criminal culture that were taught to the Native American children in death camps is still being blamed on the Native American parents who were never allowed to raise their children. And this kidnaping of Native American children is still ongoing in central Canada so the Conservatives can destroy cultural diversity and mock family values.
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bernardwheelerjr wrote:

Vets like myself have been saying roll vetrans healthcare into medicare for deccades. Kick all those gvmnt union employees to the curb and let vets choose a private healthcare providor. The VA is the definition of gvmnt waste and corruption. We could make medicare solvent again and allow vets choice. No more 1 year+ waits for care while union shits cook the books to hide the actual numbers. No more 100.mile tripps to the nearest va hospitol only to hear "sorry sir your appointment has been rescheduled and we do not have your medications in the pharmacy. You are free to pay out of pocket for those meds but, the gvmnt is not responsible to reimburse you. Have a nice day and thank you for your service". Never mind that pos gets damn near or more every week than the $1,000/mo that disabled vet gets.


Thats the problem with government programs. If it goes to shit, oh well the government will keep giving it money. No sense of "If we treat these people like shit we will go bankrupt and lose our jobs and/or investments". If you sue them then your just taking the public's money and the institution just keeps chugging along after giving severe written warnings to everyone that ended up in the trash can somehow.

The sad thing is that government programs could be better than private institutions in theory but it never works out in practice...
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Posted 6/21/18 , edited 6/22/18
yeah, I was discharged for a hip injury in 2011. Had surgery that helped some in 2014 then a revision of that surgery last year. It still hurts, locks and pops on me daily. The VA don't want to do any more surgeries because of my age, and will only send me to physical therapy. They just give me a run around every six months or so, because that's how bad their wait times are, but I get a free meal on Veterans Day so I have that going for me.
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Posted 6/23/18 , edited 6/23/18
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/reports/departmental-audit-evaluation/2009-12-nvc/4-4

A handy chart for country comparison of veteran programs. Just for some extra information.
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Posted 6/29/18 , edited 6/29/18
Lots of places do but I don't think America is the worst of offenders looking from the outside in admittedly I don't know much but what I do know is the society it's self seems to care and business seems to cater to them and giving a day to them and all that stuff sure it doesn't make up for the mistreatment but I know plenty people who are a mess mentally and financially due to the support they weren't given a lot of them got more from charities than the government but I guess that's just because governments would rather not cover the cost. At least american veterans get people talking about it this is no way a defense of it but perspective does matter.
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Posted 6/29/18 , edited 6/29/18
but they are giving us a parade. Not great health care or help getting homeless vets off the street

But fuck all that we are going to spend all that money on a parade don't you feel fucking grateful?
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Posted 6/29/18 , edited 6/29/18

bernardwheelerjr wrote:

Vets like myself have been saying roll vetrans healthcare into medicare for deccades. Kick all those gvmnt union employees to the curb and let vets choose a private healthcare providor. The VA is the definition of gvmnt waste and corruption. We could make medicare solvent again and allow vets choice. No more 1 year+ waits for care while union shits cook the books to hide the actual numbers. No more 100.mile tripps to the nearest va hospitol only to hear "sorry sir your appointment has been rescheduled and we do not have your medications in the pharmacy. You are free to pay out of pocket for those meds but, the gvmnt is not responsible to reimburse you. Have a nice day and thank you for your service". Never mind that pos gets damn near or more every week than the $1,000/mo that disabled vet gets.


And what, put 340,000 people out of a job? Who wants that responsibility? What do you do with all the vacant buildings and medical equipment and how would you pay for all the work that would need to be done in the process? More importantly, how would you guarantee veterans that you simply wouldn't be making their situation harder to deal with?
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