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Post Reply If Netflix can stream Asian dramas weekly why don't they do the same for anime?
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Posted 9/8/18 , edited 9/11/18
Just like the title says, why does Netflix have no problem streaming Asian dramas weekly, but they force anime fans to wait 3-8 months to watch the shows they stream? This just leads people to pirate these shows which is not a good thing.
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Because Netflix is under the impression that anime fans only want to binge watch. No idea what brought them to that crazy conclusion.
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Because Netflix is under the impression that anime fans only want to binge watch. No idea what brought them to that crazy conclusion.

This makes no sense, if sites like Crunchyroll, Funimation and even HIDIVE and Amazon have proved there is a market for simulcasts/simuldubs. If HIDIVE a small streaming service with barely any TV apps and got their IOS app taken off the App Store can do dubcasts I see no reason why Netflix can't at least simulcast. Did Netflix not see how excited everyone was when we found out that they were simulcasting Violet Evergarden, only to find out it was in select regions and then we got disappointed?
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the whole license thing. EVERY aspect of airing an anime that a network doesn't personally own the rights to is handled with an individual licensing agreement. What seasons/episodes of what show/anime/whatever, what you can air, what you can't, how you can air it, how you can't, where you can air it, where you can't etc. Sometimes the network can negotiate these things, and sometimes the rights holder just sets the terms and they can either take it or leave it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the whole license thing. EVERY aspect of airing an anime that a network doesn't personally own the rights to is handled with an individual licensing agreement. What seasons/episodes of what show/anime/whatever, what you can air, what you can't, how you can air it, how you can't, where you can air it, where you can't etc. Sometimes the network can negotiate these things, and sometimes the rights holder just sets the terms and they can either take it or leave it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


True however I doubt that every show they get has to be released under these conditions. Not to mention their original shows have no restrictions.
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PhantomGundam wrote:

Because Netflix is under the impression that anime fans only want to binge watch. No idea what brought them to that crazy conclusion.


I hope that last statement was dripping with as much sarcasm as it deserved.

Also, could have to do with where they acquire from--Anime companies tend to license complete series (unless it's an intentional simulcast deal like CR's), while J-drama prefers to go under its own broadcast model.
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netflix does have simulcasts though on their japanese site however usually the anime is 1 week behind compared to sites like crunchyroll
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I get the feeling the licensing for anime is much more complicated. Anime has been popular outside of Japan for longer than the live-action dramas which seem to have only started to gain some traction in the last few years. I'm sure those companies are eager to get their products out in hopes of growing the way anime has.
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Just like the title says, why does Netflix have no problem streaming Asian dramas weekly, but they force anime fans to wait 3-8 months to watch the shows they stream? This just leads people to pirate these shows which is not a good thing.


Their model is binge watching. They want you to want that one show enough to get a month's sub and stick it out afterwords and moan all people want it's been a very, very, very successful model. The don't binge release all content - mostly just their only their own "originals" but given the chance it's always the way they do things. I remember Luke Cage overloading the servers as so many hopped on at once to binge it - they do same with anime but alas there's access to torrents of that. People just need to learn to wait, impatience does not justify theft.
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netflix does have simulcasts though on their japanese site however usually the anime is 1 week behind compared to sites like crunchyroll

I know they stream it weekly in Japan. I thought it was a day or so later though. I would much rather have an anime be legally available a week later instead of 3-8 months later.
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the whole license thing. EVERY aspect of airing an anime that a network doesn't personally own the rights to is handled with an individual licensing agreement. What seasons/episodes of what show/anime/whatever, what you can air, what you can't, how you can air it, how you can't, where you can air it, where you can't etc. Sometimes the network can negotiate these things, and sometimes the rights holder just sets the terms and they can either take it or leave it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I honestly doubt Netflix, one of the wealthiest and most prominent companies in the world, is incapable cutting deals that Crunchyroll and Funimation has. There's no reason to believe Netflix is incapable, especially with the amount of anime they licensed. It is likely a policy on Netflix's end, not the right holders.

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also, don't forget the person who offers up the largest chunk of money gets rights first. Netflix is a giant with a lot of money backing them, whereas CR not as much. also, there are other sites that is even worse when it comes to getting Asian dramas, it takes forever for Hulu to drop something off, it's normally once all the other folks had their run with it. so, just hang in there, pirating is a bad thing, but you could try searching on YouTube, I can't list the number of things I've found on YT just searching a bit. granted you can't find everything and some stuff you have to pay, but there is a lot of free stuff there.
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People might flake out on anime, unless the episodes are longer.
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True however I doubt that every show they get has to be released under these conditions. Not to mention their original shows have no restrictions.


Yes, because they have exclusive rights to the ones that they create, they can do whatever they'd like with them. That is not the case for shows/anime that they personally did not create. Also, keep in mind, not all Neflix Original titles are actually created by Netflix. Some of them are, and some of them are just shows that they have exclusive streaming rights to. So you're correct, not every show has to be released under those conditions, but Netflix ultimately doesn't have any say on content that they personally did not create, so if the license holder decides they want them released under those conditions, or another licencee has an exclusive simulcast/dub/whatever clause in their contract, then there is nothing Netflix can do about it.


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I honestly doubt Netflix, one of the wealthiest and most prominent companies in the world, is incapable cutting deals that Crunchyroll and Funimation has. There's no reason to believe Netflix is incapable, especially with the amount of anime they licensed. It is likely a policy on Netflix's end, not the right holders.



You are correct. They absolutely have the resources to do it. However, having the means does not guarantee you can get whatever you want. Especially when it comes to Japanese license holders. They're notorious for being pretty selective about not only the international companies they deal with, but also with terms. There have even been known disputes regarding licenses within Japan. Also, see my statement above regarding other licencees having exclusivity clauses in their contracts, which happens pretty frequently with the companies that are responsible for the official sub/dub/distribution outside of Japan.
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Stoppablex wrote:


True however I doubt that every show they get has to be released under these conditions. Not to mention their original shows have no restrictions.


Yes, because they have exclusive rights to the ones that they create, they can do whatever they'd like with them. That is not the case for shows/anime that they personally did not create. Also, keep in mind, not all Neflix Original titles are actually created by Netflix. Some of them are, and some of them are just shows that they have exclusive streaming rights to. So you're correct, not every show has to be released under those conditions, but Netflix ultimately doesn't have any say on content that they personally did not create, so if the license holder decides they want them released under those conditions, or another licencee has an exclusive simulcast/dub/whatever clause in their contract, then there is nothing Netflix can do about it.


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I honestly doubt Netflix, one of the wealthiest and most prominent companies in the world, is incapable cutting deals that Crunchyroll and Funimation has. There's no reason to believe Netflix is incapable, especially with the amount of anime they licensed. It is likely a policy on Netflix's end, not the right holders.



You are correct. They absolutely have the resources to do it. However, having the means does not guarantee you can get whatever you want. Especially when it comes to Japanese license holders. They're notorious for being pretty selective about not only the international companies they deal with, but also with terms. There have even been known disputes regarding licenses within Japan. Also, see my statement above regarding other licencees having exclusivity clauses in their contracts, which happens pretty frequently with the companies that are responsible for the official sub/dub/distribution outside of Japan.


Oh, so a result of Netflix refusing to settle for "so and so" territory versus general streaming rights? That does make sense.
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