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Wait.

Is that not cool anymore? I clearly didn't get the memo.


Hey, it's still totally cool with me man. Don't hide the dinnerware on my account.
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The whole "i must sex or die" is a myth. Look at how a cat in heat is absolutely consumed. Not even they are subject to the principle which you presume.

"There is no dignity when the human dimension is eliminated from the person. In short, the problem with pornography is not that it shows too much of the person, but that it shows far too little."

John Paul II



You're bringing up animals that (sometimes literally) beat the shit out of each other to compete over breeding rights with females. Clearly what society needs is more blue balls.
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You're bringing up animals that (sometimes literally) beat the shit out of each other to compete over breeding rights with females. Clearly what society needs is more blue balls.


Yeah this is just ignorant.

First, you need to learn what 'literally' means.

Second, you're just wrong. Male cats don't duke it out like bighorn sheep for 'mating rights'. Male and female cats are not dramatically different in their behavior. Males may fight over territory and mark more, but that's most of it.

Third, this is a non-sequitur; it's not even relevant.

"I Must Sex or Die" is a myth perpetuated by sluts and lechers to justify their promiscuity. At the same time, porn has been shown to have negative effects on both the makers and the consumers.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10441027/How-porn-is-rewiring-our-brains.html

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At the same time, porn has been shown to have negative effects on both the makers and the consumers.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10441027/How-porn-is-rewiring-our-brains.html



Anything that crosses into addiction is going to have a negative affect on your life and your article points out the true problem:


Ultimately, says Gallop, “the issue isn’t porn. The issue is the complete absence of a counterpoint to porn.” Nina Hartley agrees.“Young people are going to find information wherever they can get it,” she tells me. “But watching porn to learn to have sex is like watching Vin Diesel movies to learn how to drive. I'm paid to give this performance. It's not the kind of sex that I have at home.”


12 year olds shouldn't be cruisin' Pornhub on the regular but we're sitting on a generational gap at the moment where the kids are vastly more tech savvy than the parents and the parents don't always have any interest in learning otherwise. The internet can no more babysit your kids than the TV can. If you have parents that are on the conservative side when it comes to the birds and the bees this is probably magnified as the answer to any and all sex questions is not to talk about them. So kids look elsewhere and the parents don't understand what that elsewhere is because it's different from when they were kids and sneaking Playboys.

As for the positive or negative effects of porn the honest answer is we don't really know. It's a hard thing to study. More porn doesn't correlate to more sex crime. Some porn has a negative effect. Other porn has a positive effect. The real problem seems to be similar to what Gallop is talking about: There's an education gap. Porn doesn't come with sex ed and relationship advice. And in some places ( such as certain states ) public education doesn't do anything to provide that either.
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Posted 9/25/18 , edited 9/25/18

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Yeah this is just ignorant.

First, you need to learn what 'literally' means.

Second, you're just wrong. Male cats don't duke it out like bighorn sheep for 'mating rights'. Male and female cats are not dramatically different in their behavior. Males may fight over territory and mark more, but that's most of it.

Third, this is a non-sequitur; it's not even relevant.

"I Must Sex or Die" is a myth perpetuated by sluts and lechers to justify their promiscuity. At the same time, porn has been shown to have negative effects on both the makers and the consumers.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10441027/How-porn-is-rewiring-our-brains.html



It's a nonsequitur you brought up, and I meant "literally" as being literal But hey, way to circle back around to labeling people sluts and lechers because they have active sex drives and you have a straw man (not to be confused with doujins about scarecrows, creepy stuff).

*Edit: I mean, what could possibly be wrong with a society that creates Bowsette?
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This street preacher who travels around preaching the Bible was recently at an anime convention in Toronto. He always draws a crowd wherever he goes. If you were there, would this bother you? Would you engage with him or just ignore him? Have you encountered a street preacher before? Post your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFn2nFgOxj4



It wouldn't bother me if he there, unless if he start preaching that Anime video is related to Satan! >.>

Edit: I just watch the youtube video.. This guy is going overboard, he thought we're watching porn anime lol.. Uh he obviously never watch Anime before except porn one lol. I seriously think this preacher guy went over the line.. Its entertainment.. Its not like directly praying to the devil! >.>
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It's a nonsequitur you brought up, and I meant "literally" as being literal But hey, way to circle back around to labeling people sluts and lechers because they have active sex drives and you have a straw man (not to be confused with doujins about scarecrows, creepy stuff).


And now you're lying and doubling down. You can have a mating instinct and not be a slut or lecher. It's entirely possible. In fact, before the advent of antibiotics it was wise not to be. You know this. You just don't care.

It seems like my initial comment condemning aberrosexuality and promiscuity struck a nerve with you.
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The whole "i must sex or die" is a myth. Look at how a cat in heat is absolutely consumed. Not even they are subject to the principle which you presume.

"There is no dignity when the human dimension is eliminated from the person. In short, the problem with pornography is not that it shows too much of the person, but that it shows far too little."

John Paul II




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And now you're lying and doubling down. You can have a mating instinct and not be a slut or lecher. It's entirely possible. In fact, before the advent of antibiotics it was wise not to be. You know this. You just don't care.

It seems like my initial comment condemning aberrosexuality and promiscuity struck a nerve with you.



So what am I supposed to be lying about and double down again? Can't be the part where you're labeling people busting a nut to porn as sluts and lechers, because you've made that view abundantly clear. If only the world would see it your way and ignore what was in their pants until it was time to settle down to baby making missionary style.
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So what am I supposed to be lying about and double down again? Can't be the part where you're labeling people busting a nut to porn as sluts and lechers, because you've made that view abundantly clear.


And now you're doubling down and lying even more. It's not possible to be so stupid that you honestly think I said masturbating makes you a slut or lecher. Hence, I can only conclude you are being deliberately, or perhaps pathologically, dishonest.


Take, for example, this:


If only the world would see it your way and ignore what was in their pants until it was time to settle down to baby making missionary style.


You're literally just making shit up and attributing it to me. People with consciences call that "lying". It does not seem to bother you to do that.

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And now you're doubling down and lying even more. It's not possible to be so stupid that you honestly think I said masturbating makes you a slut or lecher. Hence, I can only conclude you are being deliberately, or perhaps pathologically, dishonest.


Take, for example, this:


If only the world would see it your way and ignore what was in their pants until it was time to settle down to baby making missionary style.


You're literally just making shit up and attributing it to me. People with consciences call that "lying". It does not seem to bother you to do that.



Ah, so basically you want to throw around "slut" and "lecher" in a conversation about masturbation and porn, without actually connecting those labels to the people involved in consuming the porn as well as those involved in producing it. And instead of defending your stance, you just accuse me of lying for expressing how absurd I think your stance is. Cool.
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Not saying I'd ever go to a anime convention (except perhaps Comiket, but that's a whole different thing), but if I ever encountered a street preacher and he was really annoying me, I'd shove my mjolnir pendant in his face and say "Fuck off, Christcuck."
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qwueri wrote:


beating off to more semi-exploitative forms of porn




The whole "i must sex or die" is a myth. Look at how a cat in heat is absolutely consumed. Not even they are subject to the principle which you presume.

"There is no dignity when the human dimension is eliminated from the person. In short, the problem with pornography is not that it shows too much of the person, but that it shows far too little."

John Paul II



I actually hate porn myself. I think it’s making the male population change in many detrimental ways, but let’s be real, the Catholic Church is a pretty prime example of what happens when you try to completely suppress sexuality.
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Ah, so basically you want to throw around "slut" and "lecher" in a conversation about masturbation and porn, without actually connecting those labels to the people involved in consuming the porn as well as those involved in producing it. And instead of defending your stance, you just accuse me of lying for expressing how absurd I think your stance is. Cool.


That's more bullshit. You're lying again. You know that's not what I'm saying. You can go back and reread the posts any time. What I said was fairly simple. You just can't engage with it honestly.

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I actually hate porn myself. I think it’s making the male population change in many detrimental ways, but let’s be real, the Catholic Church is a pretty prime example of what happens when you try to completely suppress sexuality.


Well, I agree that it's doing some really bad stuff to men. The whole MGTOW phenomenon is enabled by it, partly. I remember listening to a lecture by one of those "nofap" guys. He was talking about dopamine receptors in the brain. It was really interesting and a bit worrisome.

What's going in the church, I'd say, is more a result of when you let homosexual men not be held accountable. Harvey Milk, Terry Bean --it's not a Catholic thing, per se.

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