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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
First DramaFever and now this.........


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surothedeath wrote:

w8 dos this mean you guys wont send anymore from funanimation like hero acodemy and food wars?

Food Wars has nothing to do with Funimation. The earlier series were Sentai, and CR licensed the most recent series directly.

As per the initial mesage in this topic, "Currently-airing simulcasts and series that premiered during the partnership will continue to be available on Crunchyroll, including favorites like Attack on Titan and My Hero Academia". While it remains to be seen if that means MHA 4 will definitely be on CR, the next part of Attack on Titan is considered to be part of the 3rd series (despite the half year gap), and thus would have been part of the existing contract.




LucyCasey wrote:

well this is a disaster. My main fear is how crunchyroll licenses many anime that funimation dubbed and sold, will that no longer happen now?

what ever happened to the english release of re zero? is this agreement ending why the release has been delayed?

As per the initial message here, "Additionally, all home video releases will be released as scheduled and all pre-orders will be fulfilled". I would expect that means anything that is "in process" (such as the 2nd half of Re:Zero would also proceed). Based on what has been stated, I expect Funimation's streaming of some of the titles will be affected, however.




AzZy- wrote:

So ... how many animes are we talking here in terms of removal?

While the initial message states, "However, a list of select catalog titles licensed via Funimation will be leaving Crunchyroll -", I expect it will be the the vast majority of catalog titles that were brought over from Funimation. If there are any spared, I anticipate it would be titles related to a simulcasts that happened during the partnership (e.g., the first MHA series, the first two Index series, etc.). Personally, I would consider any catalog titles from Funimation to be on the chopping block until stated otherwise.




paulchaested wrote:

While Funimation is owned by Sony Pictures and Aniplex is owned by Sony Music Entertainment, will this have any affect with your relationship with Aniplex USA and possibly any future Aniplex titles that may or may not end up on CR?

Given that Sony owning Funimation hasn't slowed down Aniplex from not renewing expiring Aniplex titles on Funimation, I wouldn't expect much of a change.




Adamastorx wrote:

I suppose nothing changes for European users, as Funimation is an US only service.

Aside from Canada (funny how people outside North America so easily forget about them), Funimation has been streaming to the UK & Ireland since before the partnership with CR, and added service to Australia and New Zealand more recently.

As to nothing changing for European users, viewers in a few Nordic countries that would sometimes gain access to a Funimation library title they never had legal access to before might beg to differ.



Danteire wrote:

I think everyone needs to start adapting their comments of "hurting customers/consumers" to "hurting US/Canadian customers/consumers"....as they are the only people really affected here.

You are basically accusing those in the US of having limited vision while being guilty of the same. Europe isn't the world, either. First, Funimation and CR will be competing for licenses again, and even if Funimation serves your country, they don't currently serve the world. Meanwhile, we in the US might have to subscribe to a second service, but once we have done so, we can expect to have access to the same number of titles as before. Second, Funimation doesn't currently serve the nordic countries, and some of their titles have been legally available to some countries there for the first time ever. Wave goodbye to that until Funimation expands their streaming footprint.

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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
I hope they make a full list of shows that will no longer be on the streaming site
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And they shame people for pirating when moves like this give people no choice but to do that. You're just gonna increase the amount of pirating going forward.

I also imagine that if you have Hulu you essentially have a big list of the animes leaving CR. So if you have Hulu you won't feel as big a blow.
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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
^^^^The easy way to figure this out, is just watch the intro.

If you are watching an anime on CR that plays the FUNimation splash at the very start of episode, it's /ggwp . Newer season titles post-deal may be a bit more tricky, but just lookup title on (Wikipedia) page.

Finally, most of the FUNI transfer titles had a blog post on CR news section when it occured, so just search for it. FUNimation forums likewise had posts indicating deletion of series.

No matter.
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Skode24 wrote:

Your statement contradicts itself. Competition is often very good for the consumer Vs a monopoly one place stop for all anime - CR has dominated anime for years but it took the nerd rage over a High Guardian Spice video to finally get an updated player. Why? There's no rush if there's little concern for losing the consumers.

Most interesting thing will be seeing how serious Sony are with this. They were hilariously bad at helming Animax so will they step Vs the CR existing user base (with its VRV overlords now pulling in Sentai to sweeten the deal) as well as Netflix an ever present threat to the heirachy based on it could win outright on a whim if it's serious enough and Amazon are still looming too.

It's a bit more complicated than that.

Say Company A and Company B sell refrigerators. Their products fill the same role. Each consumer will only need one company's offering, and so the two companies must compete directly with each other to get that sale - a win for consumers.

Media exclusives aren't interchangeable: If consumers want to watch Show A they have to pay for Company A's subscription, that Company B offers Show B on their service is irrelevant. The quality of Company A's service compared to B's is also irrelevant - Company A holds an effective monopoly on the desired product.

As the number of services with exclusive content increases, the average value of each service decreases because there is a finite amount of content to distribute among them, and yet their prices remain fairly constant. This is why the increasing number of streaming services in the last few years has resulted in a resurgence of piracy.
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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
Let's be honest... Anime is still one of the cheapest professional paid media content out there. For $6-7/month, tons of anime. Tons.

Learn to "Micromanage"... Don't let your monthly subscription auto-renew, cancel right after subbing. Skip days in-between months. Rotate between platforms. There is no law that says ye must sub to everything always ever, of course...

No matter.
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I think the reaction might be a little extreme. Yeah there are some great titles on there but enough to warrant this 'The sky is falling!' reaction?

Not even close.
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keiichi289 wrote:
Yeah there are some great titles on there but enough to warrant this 'The sky is falling!' reaction?



Oh, but it is, of course......

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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
Why Funimation? Why? Good bye Funimation's series.
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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
That's sad news. But that also raises some questions.

1. Funimation catalog. I take it means the older shows (early 2000 and so), not the newer ones? If it affects the latter one, it's even more devastating.

2. The simulcasts after the partnership ends. I guess it won't be the same as it has been now? Since Funimation licenses most of the them, i only fear the regions they get.

3. Sentai. I guess Sentai doesn't give a s*** and anything they license end up on HiDive. Only rarely does that happen, like Mr. TONEGAWA Middle Management Blues, for example. Wasn't actually a question, but...

I might have questions, but i'll come back should i remember them.
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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18

TheGrandAlliance wrote:

Learn to "Micromanage"... Don't let your monthly subscription auto-renew, cancel right after subbing. Skip days in-between months. Rotate between platforms. There is no law that says ye must sub to everything always ever, of course...

The problem with that with many anime fans is they feel they must watch everything as it airs in Japan.

I get the impression that some people get more enjoyment discussing the anime they watch than actually viewing it, which also might explain what appears to me to be a rise in hate watching in recent years.

I'm glad I long ago switched to waiting and then watching at my own pace, which also allows me to rotate subscriptions as desired.

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This whole "Streaming show" bandwagon is getting a bit extreme.

Soon CR will be torn apart, and everyone is going to have their own streaming service with all their exclusive stuff, and it will be so spread out that anime fans are just going to go back to pirating. CR is a great deal, and I wouldn't mind if it increased the price a bit (And actually got some friggn support people).

But if things continue to spread out, I'm not going to bother with any. Note, I'm not blaming CR for any of this. It is just a bleak future for online streaming.

To Note: I love CR, I love that it is an easy platform for me to contribute some money towards the anime field. In some way, might fuel more/better anime to come out. Cause waiting for DVD's to come out at an outrageous price is not something I'll miss anytime soon (Looking at you FLCL).
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Sony don't seem to realize the amount of hate they are getting for this. Its almost enough to make me want to write to their big bosses and hammer home how much of a colossal f up of a business decision they just made. They have further fragmented the anime community that was already beginning to be stretched thinner and thinner and since a large portion of people who watch are not exclusively in the US they have probably lost a big slice of the revenue too. Sometimes i feel like a chimp with a stick of charcoal could do better at big decisions when you think about these higher up qualified morons who make these insanely stupid decisions.
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Posted 10/19/18 , edited 10/19/18
https://www.crunchyroll.com/publisher/Funimation

This list does not have:
Aria
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NEW GAME!
Natsume Yuujinchou
Tanaka-kun is Always Listless

What a relief
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