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Update to the Crunchyroll x Funimation Partnership

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Posted 10/21/18 , edited 10/21/18

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i know one piece is funimation.will it be gone or not


No, it's very likely it will stay. Crunchyroll and Funimation had an arrangement for One Piece long before they entered a formal partnership.
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If/when Dragon Ball Super returns i wonder if it will remain on CR.
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Any chance we can get an official list of what's leaving before it leaves so I have a chance of catching up?
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Sony Picture own Animax, Toai Animation, Sunrise, Toai Animation and TMS Entertainment

Toei Animation (which you listed twice) is primarily (40%+) owned by Toei Company, which is a publicly traded corporation (e.g., not a subsidiary of another corporation). The other shareholders of Toei Animation are TV Asahi (less than 20%), Bandai Namco Holdings (just over 10%), and Fuji Media Holdings (10%).

Sunrise is a subsidiary of Bandai Namco Holdings, which is not owned by Sony.

TMS Entertainment is a a wholly owned subsidiary for Sega Sammy Holdings, which also has another subsidiary you might be familiar with, Sega Games Co., Ltd..

The only one you somewhat got right is Animax, which Sony is one of the shareholders of. The other shareholders, however, include Sunrise,
Toei Animation, TMS Entertainment (three of the companies you incorrectly claim Sony Pictures owns), and Nihon Ad Systems. I suspect this is somehow the basis from which you concluded Sony owned those other 3 companies.




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There's also Warner taking Viz and controlling the way they do business.

When do you believe this happened? The only relationship I could find is a distribution agreement they forged back in 2008 (with Warner taking over distribution of their titles).

The information I could find still shows VIZ Media LLC, is jointly owned by Japanese publishers Shueisha, Shogakukan, and Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions (ShoPro).

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I am truly grateful that those days are over myself. I really am hoping for a good outcome. I also hope that once the dust clears that my que won't be hollowed out too badly. At this point in my life I stream because I can't afford to buy DVDs and Blu-rays, because paying rent is always preferable lol!
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deidara517 wrote:

Any chance we can get an official list of what's leaving before it leaves so I have a chance of catching up?


I wouldn't count on it. Expect a list maybe a couple days before expiration.
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Shenseiken wrote:
but from what it sounds anything produced while the partnership was ongoing will likely stay. (seems like in the last 2 years)


Not sure if it's been said already, because you know, 20+ pages lol
But I'm wondering if by "produced while the partnership was ongoing", if that's counting when another season of something aired during the partnership but season 1 was before it.
From how they worded it, it sounds like it could either be the entire series is gone if it first aired before the partnership even if season 2+ aired during it, or if let's say season 1 aired before it, but 2 3 4 aired during, but 5 airs after, then 1 and 5 would be removed but not 2, 3 and 4.
Kind of wish they'd clarify it a bit, hopefully whenever they release a list.





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I remember when companies were charging 25 and $30 for three episodes of a show.


I remember when there was that sweet spot in the early/mid 2000s (2001-2005ish) when you could get 12-24 episodes a dvd for $20ish.
Prices are actually pretty bad now and have been for the last 7-8 years or so, with quite a few anime only doing 6-12 episodes for $40-60 a dvd/blu-ray and the series ends up being 40 to 300 episodes.
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doctor_professor wrote:


deidara517 wrote:

Any chance we can get an official list of what's leaving before it leaves so I have a chance of catching up?


I wouldn't count on it. Expect a list maybe a couple days before expiration.

I hope it's not that late. My guess would've been around Oct 29-31, only b/c I'd assume by contract they'd have to make a final list by the end of October. Why do I assume that? I dunno, legal stuff sounds better when it has a deadline at the end of a calendar measurement.

I don't know if CR gives news over the weekend, but maybe Nov 5th would be next best date. That's the Monday before the contract between them and Funi ends.
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ashatyro wrote:

Shenseiken wrote:
but from what it sounds anything produced while the partnership was ongoing will likely stay. (seems like in the last 2 years)

Not sure if it's been said already, because you know, 20+ pages lol
But I'm wondering if by "produced while the partnership was ongoing", if that's counting when another season of something aired during the partnership but season 1 was before it.
From how they worded it, it sounds like it could either be the entire series is gone if it first aired before the partnership even if season 2+ aired during it, or if let's say season 1 aired before it, but 2 3 4 aired during, but 5 airs after, then 1 and 5 would be removed but not 2, 3 and 4.
Kind of wish they'd clarify it a bit, hopefully whenever they release a list.
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I remember when there was that sweet spot in the early/mid 2000s (2001-2005ish) when you could get 12-24 episodes a dvd for $20ish.
Prices are actually pretty bad now and have been for the last 7-8 years or so, with quite a few anime only doing 6-12 episodes for $40-60 a dvd/blu-ray and the series ends up being 40 to 300 episodes.

So I originally assumed your question would be answered by having just the parts during the partnership remaining thus splintering the title, however the OP was updated a little. "Currently-airing simulcasts and series that premiered during the partnership will continue to be available on Crunchyroll..." I'm not sure if it's pedantry, but "premiered" suggests that subsequent editions during the partnership might also be gone to Funimation.

Also whoever you bought those $20 DVDs from was probably a pirate. Make of that whatever you want.
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I'm going to go cry in a corner okay.
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So the titles that were simulcasts during the partnership are safe? Thank god for that.
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yamijay wrote:

What does it mean in a more concrete way? Does it mean that all subtitled content of show from Funimation will be removed from here? If so, this will impact what I'm watching here, to be honest.

EDIT: I also hope that CR will make a list of which series that it will affect.


Anything that aired in the past two years is definitely staying. Mob Psycho 100, Bungou Stray Dogs and all the other titles that are licensed to Crunchyroll are staying on Crunchyroll. It appears that, for anything that was licensed to Funimation that premiered prior to August 8, 2016, there is a possibility that it is leaving, unless otherwise stated (i.e. Attack on Titan and My Hero Academia).
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Given the way that Funimation's site is laid out in that you only get a handful of anime and I'm not even sure it's subtitled for free. This is likely going to hurt them unless people want to pay for both.
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xBludgeoningAngelx wrote:

Interestingly i found this statment from funimation is anyone is interested.

“We have enormous respect for the relationship we forged with Crunchyroll and will be working with them closely over the next several months to ensure a seamless transition in terms of our respective catalogs and offerings. That said, there will be some immediate changes ahead as we unwind the partnership,” Gen Fukunaga explained.

“On November 9, 2018, our subscribers will have access to several hundred subbed titles when our catalog reverts to Funimation, while a handful of dubbed titles will no longer be available on FunimationNow. All the titles licensed during the partnership will continue to be shared with Crunchyroll and available to FunimationNow subscribers.”


Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but the way that last sentence reads, it implies that all titles licensed — not just current simulcasts — will remain. But that contradicts what CR has said. So who knows what will really wind up happening…
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xBludgeoningAngelx wrote:

Interestingly i found this statment from funimation is anyone is interested.

“We have enormous respect for the relationship we forged with Crunchyroll and will be working with them closely over the next several months to ensure a seamless transition in terms of our respective catalogs and offerings. That said, there will be some immediate changes ahead as we unwind the partnership,” Gen Fukunaga explained.

“On November 9, 2018, our subscribers will have access to several hundred subbed titles when our catalog reverts to Funimation, while a handful of dubbed titles will no longer be available on FunimationNow. All the titles licensed during the partnership will continue to be shared with Crunchyroll and available to FunimationNow subscribers.”


Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but the way that last sentence reads, it implies that all titles licensed — not just current simulcasts — will remain. But that contradicts what CR has said. So who knows what will really wind up happening…


I read it the same way it was in CR's announcement, that is, the (new) licenses that were (newly) created during the partnership (i.e. simulcasts) will stay, so any simulcasts from the past two years, but not catalogs that finished airing before that.

But it's all personal interpretation and speculation at this point, which means very little until we see the actual list, or as I pessimistically see it, approximately up to as many as roughly 300-350 of the catalog titles will go.

There are less than three weeks to go, so being complacent just means you have less time to finish something you may not have seen yet, or want to see again. (Hyouka, Nichijou, two seasons of D-gray Man)
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xBludgeoningAngelx wrote:

Interestingly i found this statment from funimation is anyone is interested.

“We have enormous respect for the relationship we forged with Crunchyroll and will be working with them closely over the next several months to ensure a seamless transition in terms of our respective catalogs and offerings. That said, there will be some immediate changes ahead as we unwind the partnership,” Gen Fukunaga explained.

“On November 9, 2018, our subscribers will have access to several hundred subbed titles when our catalog reverts to Funimation, while a handful of dubbed titles will no longer be available on FunimationNow. All the titles licensed during the partnership will continue to be shared with Crunchyroll and available to FunimationNow subscribers.”


Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but the way that last sentence reads, it implies that all titles licensed — not just current simulcasts — will remain. But that contradicts what CR has said. So who knows what will really wind up happening…


I was hoping that too and maybe just not future titles... technically crunchy licensed some of the subs as well where funi gave us dubs? Anyways we will just have to sit tight and wait and see.
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